Emploding deep in stars 50k $50+5 - 3 Really Tough Hands

idareouAA · #1 08-23-2007, 01:23 AM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t1200 with t125 antes (8 handed)

UTG (t17485)
UTG+1 (t20167)
MP1 (t20555)
MP2 (t21244)
CO (t60345)
Button (t28806)
Hero (t34754)
BB (t67141)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to t3600, Button raises to t28681 (All-in), Hero folds, BB folds, CO folds

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t1200 with t125 antes (8 handed)

UTG (t20042)
UTG+1 (t20430)
MP1 (t21119)
MP2 (t56620)
CO (t35081)
Hero (t34029)
SB (t65816)
BB (t17360)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to t3600, SB calls t3000, BB raises to t17235 (All-in), Hero folds, SB folds

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t1200 with t125 antes (9 handed)

UTG (t20305)
UTG+1 (t20994)
MP1 (t21899)
MP2 (t56495)
MP3 (t34956)
Hero (t30304)
Button (t62091)
SB (t25435)
BB (t19917)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to t3600, MP3 folds, Hero raises to t10800, Button folds, SB raises to t25310 (All-in), BB folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls t14510

Flop: (t57145) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t57145) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t57145) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Any advice on these hands would be so much appreciated. They destroyed my tourney obv. I was playing well and cruising then bam, bam, bam. So upset at the moment. Thanks for any help.

1) I don't know if calling off 29BBs is correct there
2) Not sure what to say, maybe I was priced in, didn't want to drop down to short stack I guess
3) Guy had folded to reraises every time, and obv after the third fing person shoved on me i couldn't take it and made a mistake. sigh I am the worst [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Mr.WeakTight · #2 08-23-2007, 02:31 AM

hand 1 - the button does not have AA or KK. you're flipping against smaller pairs than that and you're way ahead of smaller aces. it's a call. don't worry about BBs, worry about M (stack:blind&ante ratio).

hand 2 - you were priced in. his M was only five. you should be ahead of his range. call. and don't worry about becoming a short stack. you need to get all the chips. You wouldn't be crippled if you lost the hand. and you were right, you were priced in.

hand 3 - the weak folds in hands 1 & 2 made you a target. they don't know what you folded but it looked like you didn't have legit hands since you raised / folded. then you made too big of a raise PF. stick with your std. raise. you didn't have enough fold equity after committing half your stack pre-flop.

jrock901 · #3 08-23-2007, 02:31 AM

The first hand is interesting. How has the button been playing? Getting out of line any?
The second hand...AT against even 5% of hands here...99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo is about 2-1. He may be shoving wider than that and you're getting just about 2-1 to call. Hand three, looks like you could be crushed there. But you said it yourself..called out of frustration.

idareouAA · #4 08-23-2007, 02:43 AM

It was only my 14th hand at the table and the button had opened one pot before that. So no reads.

black666 · #5 08-23-2007, 10:28 AM

hand 1: Call! Button's range is pretty wide here as you raised from the CO and can be FOS.

hand 2: you are getting almost 2:1 and the BB's range is super wide here (any pair, any picture card, maybe even any ace). Shove and isolate! You can't just call, because you want to get the SB out.

hand 3: you are getting insane odds, you need to call! That's the reason why I would have just called in the first place and played for a set. A raise commits you to the pot because you throw 1/3 of your stack in there.

hamnegger · #6 08-23-2007, 10:59 AM

hand 1: don't be surprised if you are AHEAD here very often and almost never against aa kk. you gamble and win here you are da man.

hand 3:i flat call w 99 or reraise more. when you reraise w qq kk aa you raise for value, here you want the hand to end. you have to call hell if i flat called and sb shoved id still call

hamnegger · #7 08-23-2007, 11:03 AM

hand 2 is a bad fold! you are the player agrros on this site exploit. you raise loose on button but call too tight. you have a legit late position hand defend your raises!

hamnegger · #8 08-23-2007, 11:09 AM

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3) Guy had folded to reraises every time, and obv after the third fing person shoved on me i couldn't take it and made a mistake. sigh I am the worst [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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um you ABSOLUTELY did NOT make a mistake calling w 99 here. you were justified to call in all 3 pots you posted. when you have good hands + good odds you need real clear evidence you are way behind to fold.

cheburashka · #9 08-23-2007, 11:13 AM

What hamnegger said. Especially on the resteal issue. How are we nits going to fight the laggros if you let them get away with that?

xxGreat1xx · #10 08-23-2007, 12:41 PM

1. Tough but this looks like a resteal maybe. I don't think he would do this with AA or KK. maybe more like 88-QQ, AJ-AK. I would call

2. Have to have to have to call this

3. I would probably open shove this instead of the re-raise. Put them to the tough decision instead of yourself. But now your priced in and you have to call.