How to extract from Mattster24?

[Bond18]

Stars 109 FO. Villain is 2+2'er Mattster24. I'm pretty sure he knows it's me and we've played quite a lot together.

From what i've seen in his HH's, he's got a pretty tight style in the early game, so i think we can expect a fairly small range on the 3 bet unless he's getting creative cause he knows its me. On a sunday with a gazillion tables, i doubt it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t2910)
Button (t3060)
SB (t2980)
BB (t3345)
UTG (t2655)
UTG+1 (t2780)
Hero (t2940)
MP2 (t3410)
MP3 (t2920)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t180</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t120.

Flop: (t390) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

What's best plan to extract from thinking player?

[Mr.WeakTight]

check call his flop bet. check - raise the turn. lead the river for value.

[mikeJ]

C/r flop, silly. If he is auto folding an overpair here, then this would be an easy flop c/r w/ any two ===&gt; he's not always going to fold an overpair. If you lead, he's just going to flatcall a whole bunch of stuff. If you c/c, there are a bunch of bad turn cards that will kill your action if he has a big hand already.

[TimberBee]

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C/r flop, silly. If he is auto folding an overpair here, then this would be an easy flop c/r w/ any two ===&gt; he's not always going to fold an overpair. If you lead, he's just going to flatcall a whole bunch of stuff. If you c/c, there are a bunch of bad turn cards that will kill your action if he has a big hand already.

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I agree with this, and also, the flop is very draw heavy, so he could put you on a draw, and fastaplay his TT+ or whatever. Or he could have a FD as well, and push over your c/r. So this should be a pretty clear c/r.

[THEOSU]

bet 3bet your draw and boom goes the dynamite.

[Ansky]

check raise always here, this is so simple i dont get it.

you are always getting it in vs an overpair.

osu,

b3b here is [censored] horrible, as these donkleads really dont get raised that much by air, and we are getting it in vs big npairs all day.

Unless of course, bonds image is that nitty.

[Ansky]

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check call his flop bet. check - raise the turn. lead the river for value.

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check calling flop is almost bad as open folding flop. Your plan is to keep the pot small, and wait until a scare card kills your action huh?

[THEOSU]

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check raise always here, this is so simple i dont get it.

you are always getting it in vs an overpair.

osu,

b3b here is [censored] horrible, as these donkleads really dont get raised that much by air, and we are getting it in vs big npairs all day.

Unless of course, bonds image is that nitty.

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ansky,

against someone like mattster who bond might play more often, i think mixing in the b3b with the set might be the way to go.

i dunno, maybe they just wouldnt' come across each other that much for it to be meaningful.

[Ansky]

i dunno about that even.

im fine w/ shania if i never lead any hand on this flop ever.

[mastr]

didn't we have this exact thread already? the mondo mondo mondo long one?