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Old 08-22-2007, 05:05 PM
Wolfram Wolfram is offline
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Default Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

3-bettor is 22.3/14.3/2.11 @ 175 hands.
UTG is unknown.

Flop is probably standard. Turn call good?
I had no idea whether I should call or raise the river.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:13 PM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

raises.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

I like the turn call because you are extremely likely to have BB reverse dominated, so he is drawing to 3 outs against you. Given that unknown open limped UTG, I assume he is a donk until proven otherwise. The turn donk could be a made straight, a pair and straight draw, two pair, or a flush draw. So I call down here, possibly folding a K river if UTG is still in there.

On this particular river, I would raise. UTG is very unlikely to have a set with the flop action, so you're behind only to a a straight. Call a 3bet.

If you had something like T9 or TT, I think the turn becomes a raise/call and then fold river unimproved. I don't want BB to draw to his 6 outer for one bet.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

I want to raise the turn to have BB fold a 6 outer or maybe even make a terrible cold call with what he thinks is a 10 outer

but UTG's line is really confusing and represents a strong hand, so I think a call is best with no reads.

river didn't really change anything. villain isn't going to call a raise with the 2pair hands you just counterfeited anyways. go for the overcall imo
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

BB's most likely holding is AK and AQ so I dont think there is much reason to raise the turn.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:24 PM
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call and make a note about his holdings.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Wtf is this guy donking the turn with in a 3 way pot

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BB's most likely holding is AK and AQ so I dont think there is much reason to raise the turn.

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well those hands do have 3 outs to win and 4 to chop
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