3/6 A couple of somewhat thin value bets

[AAismyfriend]

No reads in first hand but he's probably bad considering his stack and preflop raise size. Too thin or standard?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $263.90
Hero (BB): $1,536.00
UTG: $708.25
CO: $677.00
BTN: $880.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $6.00, CO calls $6.00, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $72.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $54.00

Flop: ($156) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($156) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $90.00</font>, SB calls $90.00

River: ($336) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $105.00</font>


Villain in hand 2 has loose/fishy stats, but actually seems to play ok postflop. I usually just dump this preflop but we're deep and his 3 bet is less than pot sized, and I'm really just trying to hit something big. Thoughts on this river bet??

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,380.60
BB: $397.85
UTG: $660.00
Hero (CO): $1,169.60
BTN: $574.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $60.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $39.00

Flop: ($126) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $90.00</font>, Hero calls $90.00

Turn: ($306) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($306) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $240.00</font>

[tuckercat]

first one is too thin, i think you will see Ks far too often here, i don't see the problem with betting flop btw.

second one is fine, although this looks like he has AK or an underpair, i don't know that he calls $240, i might consider ~$160ish, fish love making hero calls in these spots with AK or underpair... i'd give him that chance.

[jlocdog]

Neither hand seems that thin to me. 1st one, his stack is too short to even consider the word thin as there is no threat on your stack.

[AAismyfriend]

Yea I was hoping the 2nd hand looked like missed QK/spades and he'd look me up AK/AQ high.

[FireStorm]

First hand I'm not sure what can call that we beat, unless you think he would play AT or AXs (A5?) like this (very unlikely) - I wouldn't bet here.

Hand 2 agreed you can bet but not $240. Give him a shot to look you up with Ace high and guarantee a call from QJ.

[tcorbin16]

2nd hand i think u should bet less.

first hand i think is not great but id prob bet it during the hand.

[Unknown Soldier]

1: just bet the flop..

2: bet, but a bit less.

[Praetor]

#1 is fine, especially given his stack.

#2 I would still fold preflop with this hand despite stacks, and I think bet size is fine.

[jfish]

1.) fine, probably wouldnt rr pf given stack sizes but whatever nh.

2.) id prefer betting less since you get called by A high more. also you should call a c/r and would rather not have some huge c/r since you bet 3/4 pot.