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Old 08-20-2007, 01:04 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default top set in reraised pot now what?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3293401466: $25,000 Guarantee (24646431), Table 8 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:58:15 ET - 2007/08/18

Seat 6:hero (8,125)
Seat 9: TigerScorpio (6,550)

hero posts the small blind of 50
completebag posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero[Kh Kd]

TigerScorpio (utg +1)raises to 200

hero (sb) raises to 800

TigerScorpio calls 600
*** FLOP *** [8c 4d Kc]
hero bets 700. is this bad? is a check too alarming? what am i doing on the turn if he calls? what am i doing on turn if instead of betting flop we opted to check and it goes check check?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:35 AM
Mr.WeakTight Mr.WeakTight is offline
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

700 bet is good; check gives free cards to flush draws and they'll suspect you of AK AA KK. if he calls here, you're leading for half the pot again with a non-club. with a club, you're check calling. same deal with the river.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

Betting out is the right way.

If villain holds AA or a set he will stack off.

If he has a smaller PP i think a bet-check-bet is more valuable than a check-bet-bet, cause you more often get a bet paid of on the river.

If he has the last K he will call/raise.

If he holds a Ace the chances that he catches one are bad.
And as mentioned from Mr.WeakTight you have a possible flush-draw on the board.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:56 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

I like the half pot bet here...seems to generally extract the most value from his range. If called turn is dependant on what it is & reads...though I hate the c/c line mentioned above if it is a club
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

i bet 700 he folded
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

Are we really that afraid of the flush heads up? Multiway pot at a full table I understand the concern but to be concerned about that flush heads up seems to be a bit over-protective. More than likely, the club coming on the turn may be the best card for you. If he has the clubs so be it, you still have a re-draw. I would hope that the club comes and weak lead for about 25-30% of the pot and pray for a push by a guy representing the flush.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: top set in reraised pot now what?

I would completely discount the flush here. Make it 2/3 pot size on the flop. If he has something reasonable he will call/raise and we prepare a real big pot for a shove. If he folds we wouldn´t have gotten any more money anyway.

While he folded to a 700 bet, he would have folded as well to a bet of 500 and would certainly have checked behind if you checked the flop and folded the turn anyway.

=> Well played.
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