($36) AA on bad flop 4ways

pauliewalnuts · #1 08-19-2007, 12:39 AM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1710
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1320
Hero: t1470
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30 (pot was t45), 4 folds, Button calls t30 (pot was t75), Hero raises to t130, BB calls t100 (pot was t205), UTG+1 calls t100 (pot was t305), Button calls t100 (pot was t405).

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t520, 4 players)
Hero??

2nd hands so no reads. What the plan here? Bet/call, bet/fold, CRAI, or check and see?

pineapple888 · #2 08-19-2007, 01:02 AM

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1710
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1320
Hero: t1470
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30 (pot was t45), 4 folds, Button calls t30 (pot was t75), Hero raises to t130, BB calls t100 (pot was t205), UTG+1 calls t100 (pot was t305), Button calls t100 (pot was t405).

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t520, 4 players)
Hero??

2nd hands so no reads. What the plan here? Bet/call, bet/fold, CRAI, or check and see?

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LOL I was just talking with SFB about this hand earlier. c/f absent a K hitting if it gets checked through.

And raise WAY more preflop.

And what did the first two players do on the flop?

GatorXP · #3 08-19-2007, 01:07 AM

i like a little heavier PFR here first caller probably has a hand he likes this should make the hand play easier as well. I smell two pair somewhere not to mention all the OESD out there. I check see who does what. Raise any weak play and see where i am. Its still early baby.

DeuceSeven · #4 08-19-2007, 01:13 AM

Raise to 150 pf. check/fold the flop. I'd bet my roll that you're not the best hand on this flop.

pauliewalnuts · #5 08-19-2007, 01:14 AM

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And what did the first two players do on the flop?

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I was first to act.

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LOL I was just talking with SFB about this hand earlier.

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This exact hand??

pineapple888 · #6 08-19-2007, 01:16 AM

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And what did the first two players do on the flop?

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I was first to act.

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Oh, duh, sry. c/f anyway.

mickii · #7 08-19-2007, 01:54 AM

Preflop raise needs to be at least 150. I go harder and try to take away set odds with two limpers, maybe look at 200. If its 10$ or less posting fee you can probably go all in and pick up a caller who has 7s. Winning 105>losing 1470.

pineapple888 · #8 08-19-2007, 02:11 AM

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LOL I was just talking with SFB about this hand earlier.

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This exact hand??

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This exact situation in another tournament, we weren't sweating you or anything.

Kevin8423 · #9 08-19-2007, 02:16 AM

I'm betting 180 pf, but even as played I think I'm betting and calling a shove from most players. I think you see enough garbage to justify it assuming no one is a decent regular. You have draws to the nut straight, and you have quite a few outs against 2 pair. I think you'll see just a pair here quite a bit even if they call or come over the top.

pauliewalnuts · #10 08-19-2007, 02:42 AM

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LOL I was just talking with SFB about this hand earlier.

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This exact hand??

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we weren't sweating you or anything.

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I was starting to get pretty excited there for a minute.