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Old 08-16-2007, 11:52 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default QQ donked 3 way

First orbit so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:35 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: QQ donked 3 way

sometimes I just call the flop, and raise the turn.

readless, i guess i call down.

i hate this spot
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:40 AM
ThE_DrOpOuT ThE_DrOpOuT is offline
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Default Re: QQ donked 3 way

I think you played the hand fine even though its likely that the bb has you beat. At the very least if you lose the pot you gain some information about your opponent.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:29 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: QQ donked 3 way

I think there is unproportionally many "first orbit" hands posted in this forum... Standard hand against unknowns thou...
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:31 AM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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I think there is unproportionally many "first orbit" hands posted in this forum... Standard hand against unknowns thou...

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Thats because hands without reads are the toughest to play.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:34 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: QQ donked 3 way

ldo, seriously.

gvasa you already made your own thread about reads-based hands. here's one for you from the "well played hands" thread the other day. vvv boring

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reads based hand:

<u>notes on player</u>
1. does not raise 55/66/99/QQ/KK preflop.
2. does not raise K5/K6/K9/KQ preflop.
3. does not raise 65 preflop.
4. does not raise Q5/Q6/Q9 preflop.
5. does not raise 95/96 preflop.
6. does not raise JT preflop.
7. will cap flop and turn w/ oesfd.
8. will cap every street with TP with suited hole cards.

so my thoughts are as follows -

1. i am only beaten by 55/66/99/QQ/KK, K5/K6/K9/KQ, 65, Q5/Q6/Q9, 95/96, JT, and 87. however, he will not raise preflop with 55/66/99/QQ/KK, K5/K6/K9/KQ, 65, Q5/Q6/Q9, 95/96, or JT.

2. thus, i only have to worry about 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], whereas I beat all suited kings (except for chopping with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]).

3. doing combo analysis, this makes every street very easy. there is only one combo of 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], but there are so many suited kings I beat. see the results for proof - he has K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

4. this is an example of a reads-based play (i know all the standard lines fwiw).

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (15.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 23.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">CO Shows 2c Kc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero Shows Kh Jh</font>

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