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Old 08-15-2007, 10:21 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

The last round or two i've been pretty aggressive getting some really good starting hands. This is about 10-15 minutes after the add on.

During the rebuy period Eric would often call my raises OOP and donk into me on the flop, and since i was hitting nothing i gave him a ton of folds. I've been pretty tight with what i commit a large portion of chips with.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3265094625: FTOPS Event #9 (23185991), Table 113 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:17:02 ET - 2007/08/15
Seat 1: luvtheWNBA (4,302)
Seat 2: muckthenuts (6,024)
Seat 3: Carmen35 (3,335)
Seat 4: tilty_wilty (3,039)
Seat 5: Erick Lindgren (16,120)
Seat 6: TreeBets (8,575)
Erick Lindgren posts the small blind of 40
TreeBets posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to muckthenuts [3d 3h]
luvtheWNBA folds
muckthenuts has 15 seconds left to act
muckthenuts raises to 240
Carmen35 folds
tilty_wilty folds
Erick Lindgren calls 200
TreeBets folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 2c 4d]
Erick Lindgren bets 480
muckthenuts calls 480
*** TURN *** [5c 2c 4d] [Th]
Erick Lindgren bets 1,280
muckthenuts raises to 5,304, and is all in

Thoughts?
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:25 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

I like very much
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

His hand looks strong, your line doesn't seem like it would match any hand at all, except maybe TT. What hand or hands are you trying to represent here?
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

Ehh, I don't think he will give you credit for a big hand cause you'd probably raise flop w/ an overpair+, I think if he has like 66, he's bet/calling turn. So if his turn range contains enough hands worse than 66, I guess it's fine. TBH, I don't really know how wide his turn range is.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

I'm not like thrilled about it but I don't think you can play it any other way.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

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Ehh, I don't think he will give you credit for a big hand cause you'd probably raise flop w/ an overpair+, I think if he has like 66, he's bet/calling turn. So if his turn range contains enough hands worse than 66, I guess it's fine. TBH, I don't really know how wide his turn range is.

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Good point, though i will play devils advocate here for a moment.

Lindgren doesn't know me from any other random FTOPS spaz, i didn't do anything in the first hour that would make him think i'm a good thinking player in particular. It's very possible that plenty of people in FTOPS or slowplay donkeys who will flat a big pair on this flop intending to jam turn, how does Lindgren know me apart from them after 1 hours play in rebuy period?
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

I don't hate the line, but the prob is that I don't think he's double barreling often here. If you've been giving up to his donk bets previously, when you call here he has to think you like your hand, so I think he wants action more often than not on the turn.

Contrarily, his range is pretty wide to donk into you on the flop given your image and the texture. How do people feel about a flop raise?
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

the trouble with a flop raise is that stacks are really weird for it. i mean, i guess you can make it 1500 or so, but then you're left debating whether to call off your last ~4400 if/when he pushes.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

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Contrarily, his range is pretty wide to donk into you on the flop given your image and the texture. How do people feel about a flop raise?

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I think a flop raise is best - you have plenty of FE, you certainly don't mind taking down the pot right here, if he pushes you probably have 10 clean outs/may be flipping etc.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS event 9 vs Eric Lindgren

I might well like OP's line a lot. I'd want to see the whole hand history replay to get a sense of how he views us but with the right tight image this can easily look like TT+ waiting for a blank turn to get busy.

In a vacuum, I'd just raise the flop. I'd assume that, snug as he is here, we'll get some folds or, better still, he'll call and fold the turn.
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