4/180 - UTG All In From a Short Stack

[All_In_Olly]

UTG raises obviously signify strength usually.

But when a short stack goes all in UTG I sometimes find he's actually got a huge range - not just because of his M, but because he wants to get it all in before he goes through the blinds again.

Here the villain has an M of ~5.5, still, A9 is a marginal holding, is it good enough?
If not, what's your minimum here?

Blinds are 300/600, villain is 17/9 VPIP/PFR over 200, so is on the tightish side.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t14274)
Hero (t31018)
UTG (t6671)
MP1 (t23025)
MP2 (t6647)
CO (t15519)
Button (t19301)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t6621</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ?

[Jon_AK]

given your stack, I would definately call it... Like you said his M is low and the blinds are on him in the next hand - - He could be pushing some weak hands here (although not complete crap, as he is UTG) and A9s is a pretty good hand in this situation. You posted the big blind, so the pot odds here are good if he pushed a small pair, ace-small lower than 9, or king high and less. I'd go for it...

[Micro Donk]

uhh, fold?

calling 88+, AQ+

[chh]

what's the ante here? 50? so pot is around 1250 to begin with.
you have to call 6000 to win 7800, or 1.3-1

If anyone wants to assign an actual range, please go ahead.

That said having such a big stack we can afford calling here without even losing our table leader position, and we have a really good chance of actually being ahead so our odds seem ok. If I had only 10k I would clearly fold this (since a loss would cripple us and the edge is not likely to be huge), with 30k it turns into a call for me.

How many players are left actually? around 20 I guess?

[cheburashka]

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If anyone wants to assign an actual range, please go ahead.

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My usual caveat that I'm a beginner and I suck at this game, but...

If I have an M of 5-6, my UTG shoving range with 7 players would be something like 66+, A7+, KQ, KJs. FWIW, A9s is a 56-44 dog against that range.

[Pokerfarian]

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what's the ante here? 50? so pot is around 1250 to begin with.
you have to call 6000 to win 7800, or 1.3-1

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If I have an M of 5-6, my UTG shoving range with 7 players would be something like 66+, A7+, KQ, KJs. FWIW, A9s is a 56-44 dog against that range.

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Putting 2 and 2 together makes this a breakeven call.

[All_In_Olly]

Chh - the ante was 50 so pot odds are around 43% which makes calling very attractive.

I have to disagree with you on what you say about stack size - if I think I have any edge I will call even if losing means I go out.

Good question on how many are left - there was 3 tables left I think, so we're getting near the bubble.

This obviously matters as this may tighten UTG's range a bit, given the average 4/180 player is overly concerned with their tournament life.

[All_In_Olly]

Cheburashka that range looks pretty reasonable to me, taking villain's M, stats,buy in and the bubble factor into account.

So we have 44% equity with 43% pot odds.

So easy call
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[BlueEcho]

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I have to disagree with you on what you say about stack size - if I think I have any edge I will call even if losing means I go out.


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QFT

[chh]

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I have to disagree with you on what you say about stack size - if I think I have any edge I will call even if losing means I go out.


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well it depends on what you call edge. But I'm not calling here with a 10k stack and find myself crippled when I lose when it's actually 44% pot odds and 43% against his range, because I'm confident that with a 10k stack I can find a better situation, where as losing this hand basically puts me into push/fold mode.
With a big stack however I will obviously take whatever small edge there is.
QFT

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