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Old 08-12-2007, 03:02 PM
west_eh west_eh is offline
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Default FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

I have villain at 23/21/3.5. Haven't really noticed him, but this table has been very aggressive. Lots of 3 betting.

I'm running at 17/15/3. Went to showdown once with the goods and doubled up. My image is good (although I am historically laggy).

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$411.80</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$200.00</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$457.25</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$237.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$211.00</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$200.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $17

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $126</font>, <font color="#0000cc">Hero?</font>

Would checking this flop behind for pot control (we're 200bb deep) with the intention of calling most turns and then re-evaluating on the river be better?

As played? I can't even see him doing this with KK. That's a fugly board vs. my range. Is a fold prudent?

Here's my equity vs. what I percieve as his non-bluffing range (including AA/KK. Although if he was going to go for a check/raise on the flop this would be the flop texture that would slow him down with those hands):

Board: Qs Jc Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.075% 42.09% 00.98% 14585 340.50 { ThTs }
Hand 1: 56.925% 55.94% 00.98% 19384 340.50 { JJ+, AKs, AcQc, AKo }
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:04 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

What's his sn
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

shove
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

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What's his sn

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Old 08-12-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

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shove

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Seems absolutely terrible.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

What is your plan for the turn if you just call then?
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

Shove? Surely this guy would fold KK/AA most of the time. It's unlikely he called with QJs preflop. I'm don't think there's much that we beat that he'd shove.

I think the range west_eh gave is pretty legit (and what calls a shove is even tighter), and this would be an awful spot to bluff since so many hands hero can have hit this flop so hard.

I don't know what to do. Hands like this are why I play 100NL and not 200NL. I'd like input from others.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:12 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

Man soo sick. I hate shoving, but calling could lead to some very nasty turn spots. fwiw I don't think he plays AA/KK like this too much.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

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What is your plan for the turn if you just call then?

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So you're shoving so you don't have to think any more about this tough situation?
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: FT200: Bottom set, reraised pot, 200bb deep

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What is your plan for the turn if you just call then?

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So you're shoving so you don't have to think any more about this tough situation?

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wow, shutup. at least with a shove we have some fold equity.
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