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Old 08-11-2007, 12:35 PM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default 2 hands against moron.

Hand 1

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
MP ($162.77)
CO ($48.50) (85/4/1.41/44) (55h)
SB ($104.56)
UTG ($106.25)
BB ($19.85)
Hero ($195.93)

Preflop: Hero is BU with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $43.5 (all-in)</font> hero...

Hand 2
happened 3 hands after hand 1.

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
SB ($159.48)
BB ($76.65) (86/4/1.36/47) (57h)
CO ($104.06)
BU ($38.99)
Hero ($147.43)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($32.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

River: ($72.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets $40.65 (all-in)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $113.15.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:41 PM
apunisher apunisher is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

hand 2 call river
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

Hand 1 I'd fold since you aren't really getting very attractive odds, and you could be drawing nearly dead.


Hand 2 I probably just fold the turn.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:57 PM
dreamcircus dreamcircus is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

Hand 1 clear fold, but your preflop raise $5 and flop bet size against position give away that you don't have a set, allowing him to bluff if he was.

Hand 2 villain didn't have much, but you convinced him that you had even less given the play and he shoved on river. If you had shown a little more aggression(somewhat bigger bet sizes, or a reraise somewhere) he would've just folded. Did he show his bluff to you?
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

I usually cbet less against some idiots. against some guys you can even bet less then 1/2 the pot because they look at their cards at the board, they see a bet and if they dont like cards they fold.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

The first hand i would almost definetly fold under those circumstances. The second hand i would have reraised all in on the turn if i were you but since you didn't i would definetly call there since that looks like a huge bluff. He is playing it way to strong to have a 5 or J
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

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Hand 1 clear fold, but your preflop raise $5 and flop bet size against position give away that you don't have a set, allowing him to bluff if he was.

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lol what? those are 100% standard bet sizes.

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Hand 2 villain didn't have much, but you convinced him that you had even less given the play and he shoved on river. If you had shown a little more aggression(somewhat bigger bet sizes, or a reraise somewhere) he would've just folded. Did he show his bluff to you?

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you realize that if you show aggression anywhere you're going to be all-in? and then villain is only calling if he has a hand?

raising is the worst thing you can do unless you have a read that a raise will induce a shove with any two.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

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but since you didn't i would definetly call there since that looks like a huge bluff. He is playing it way to strong to have a 5 or J


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what? what?! he went minraise, 2/3 pot, 1/2 pot. he couldn't have strung you along any more.


kimpan -

surely you have some other reads after 60 hands besides PT numbers. whether he fires three barrels with air or whatever.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

it seems hes betting his 5 in hand 1 lol but I dont think see how you can call that turn and not call the river? either fold turn or go all the way with it
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands against moron.

hand 1 fold flop hand 2 fold turn
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