200: Situation PF

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Here's a little scenario I'd like to hear some thoughts on:

I'm otb with KK and $180

UTG opens for $8. He's short starting with $79.

+2 is why I'm at the table. He's deep, extremely loose and quite passive and cals.

The Co is a tighty and calls

What's your raise size and why?

[CalledDownLight]

Is this live or online? Live, I would think probably $50. Online, I'd make it $38.

[QTip]

Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

[KurtSF]

Pot?

So what's that, like $40.

[RyanCMU]

Here I would make my reraise enough to put UTG all-in...

[RyanCMU]

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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Ahh just saw that this was online.... My above post is kinda void then hahah...

Our goal should be to make a sizeable enough reraise that UTG will push over top... This also is a possitive is UTG doesnt come over the top for their remaining stack but we get the terrible player to call a large reraise which will allow us to get the stacks in easier postflop vs them.

[[Phill]]

Pot is 43.

Id prefer an even 40 due to position in the hand.

[QTip]

The thing I'm considering here is this:

There's a decent chance that the shorty will go all in. If he does, I can't reraise when the fish calls. However, my bet would have to be about $35 to get this done, and I'm afraid that's going to get us multiway. With AA, I feel a lot more comfortable with the smaller bet. However, with KK, I'm torn.

[moldman]

I actually probably a little underpot it. Maybe around 29-30. UTG could very easily have AA with the UTG raise, but you're not concerned about that and are getting it in with him regardless I'd assume. If +2 is the target, you want him to come along for the ride, right? Obviously, you still want to raise, but you want him to call. I think a slightly smaller bet might induce him to call whereas a raise to 38 or 40 might be too much. I figure the CO as a tighty is set-mining and that's an expensive set to mine and if he still calls and you get 4 way action, so be it.

[bottomset]

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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my default RR is 3x IP, I add 1x per coldcaller, so something around 40