NL50: AQ against raiser on A flop

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $49.55
Hero (BB): $25.50
UTG: $49.25
UTG+1: $69.65
MP1: $33.85
MP2: $43.15
MP3: $47.30
CO: $86.90
BTN: $53.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $3.00</font>, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($10.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

River: ($10.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $11.00</font>, Hero ??


Not sure if I played this hand smooth or completely botched it? Was the flop call instead of raise alright against the pfr? How about the turn check, kind of felt like I was getting c/r so checked it. I assume this makes the river a call, but the fact that the diamond came and he bet large I had to question it...

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Not sure if I played this hand smooth or completely botched it? Was the flop call instead of raise alright against the pfr? How about the turn check, kind of felt like I was getting c/r so checked it. I assume this makes the river a call, but the fact that the diamond came and he bet large I had to question it...

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The checking and calling is awful, really. You are contributing more and more money into the pot and learning absolutely nothing. When you do this, you end up on the river with literally no idea where you are in the hand.

Bet the flop, I'd say 3/4 to pot sized here. If he is drawing, punish him by giving him incorrect odds to call. A reriase probably means he has you beat, and you are done with the hand. If he calls, you have taken the lead and can continue to fire on the turn, or pull back if a scare card comes.

As an aside, this is the problem with playing AQ. You are absolutely dead to AK. As played, I'd probably slow down on the turn as well.

[seki]

Raise on the flop, calling gets you no information in a situation that really needs it.

As played, the PSB after checking behind is a bizarre line for villain. Given your line, the 6d is more likely to help you than the villain, so if it's a bluff, it's an odd one. Without reads, I'd chuck it.

Any reads on villain? What was your image?

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As played, the PSB after checking behind is a bizarre line for villain. Given your line, the 6d is more likely to help you than the villain, so if it's a bluff, it's an odd one.



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I disagree. Villains flop bet looks to be a semi-bluff bet with his draw, hoping to take the pot down right there. The fact that he checked the turn is an indication that's he wants to take his chances with a free card to see if he makes his hand. The diamond on the turn is money and now villain is over betting to try to confuse OP and induce a call. I'd say villain played this hand very well, and would watch out for him in the future.

(Edit: Villain could also have AK. After the flop, he is betting to drive YOU out if you were on a draw, and the K on the turn is checked because he figures he can suck you in on the river if you have a weaker A. When you didn't bet the river, villain knew you didn't have a diamond and went for the overbet. )

[pterodactyl_]

c/r the flop and lead the turn, would be my line with the very drawy flop. Reads on villain would help a lot here. Against most villains I would prefer to 3bet preflop and take control of the hand there.

As played, call the river, youve played your hand so passively that he can be trying to take you off it with any two cards.

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youve played your hand so passively that he can be trying to take you off it with any two cards.

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Excellent point, but I'd still fold the river. OP has done nothing right on this hand post-flop and sometimes you just need to let it go.

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As played, the PSB after checking behind is a bizarre line for villain. Given your line, the 6d is more likely to help you than the villain, so if it's a bluff, it's an odd one.



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I disagree. Villains flop bet looks to be a semi-bluff bet with his draw, hoping to take the pot down right there. The fact that he checked the turn is an indication that's he wants to take his chances with a free card to see if he makes his hand. The diamond on the turn is money and now villain is over betting to try to confuse OP and induce a call. I'd say villain played this hand very well, and would watch out for him in the future.

(Edit: Villain could also have AK. After the flop, he is betting to drive YOU out if you were on a draw, and the K on the turn is checked because he figures he can suck you in on the river if you have a weaker A. When you didn't bet the river, villain knew you didn't have a diamond and went for the overbet. )

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do you read what you write? This is so contradictory. Also, how the [censored] does a cbet scream draw to you? If you know that he has a draw after a cbet that is standard in every way for any hand he raise then you should be tearing up high stakes right now.

OP, I call the river. Also, I play it the same most of the time.

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As played, the PSB after checking behind is a bizarre line for villain. Given your line, the 6d is more likely to help you than the villain, so if it's a bluff, it's an odd one.



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I disagree. Villains flop bet looks to be a semi-bluff bet with his draw, hoping to take the pot down right there. The fact that he checked the turn is an indication that's he wants to take his chances with a free card to see if he makes his hand. The diamond on the turn is money and now villain is over betting to try to confuse OP and induce a call. I'd say villain played this hand very well, and would watch out for him in the future.

(Edit: Villain could also have AK. After the flop, he is betting to drive YOU out if you were on a draw, and the K on the turn is checked because he figures he can suck you in on the river if you have a weaker A. When you didn't bet the river, villain knew you didn't have a diamond and went for the overbet. )

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Where are you getting all this info on the hand from? Fold is -EV based on the enormous range villain has.

[Mike Kelley]

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As played, the PSB after checking behind is a bizarre line for villain. Given your line, the 6d is more likely to help you than the villain, so if it's a bluff, it's an odd one.



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I disagree. Villains flop bet looks to be a semi-bluff bet with his draw, hoping to take the pot down right there. The fact that he checked the turn is an indication that's he wants to take his chances with a free card to see if he makes his hand. The diamond on the turn is money and now villain is over betting to try to confuse OP and induce a call. I'd say villain played this hand very well, and would watch out for him in the future.

(Edit: Villain could also have AK. After the flop, he is betting to drive YOU out if you were on a draw, and the K on the turn is checked because he figures he can suck you in on the river if you have a weaker A. When you didn't bet the river, villain knew you didn't have a diamond and went for the overbet. )

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Where are you getting all this info on the hand from? Fold is -EV based on the enormous range villain has.

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Where are you getting this enormous range from? I don't see villains stats anywhere. Are you saying it's enormous because our hero hasn't done anything to define villains hand? There's a flush and a straight on the board and we have 1pr. Fold! I wouldn't be surprised if villain had 2 pair or better at this point

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I guess I don't make assumptions about what checking means, that's how.