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Old 08-05-2007, 07:54 AM
phobos phobos is offline
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Default KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

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this is like the third time this session he's made this play on a board like this.

if you call the flop, how do you react to a PSB on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $661.50
BB: $426.60
Hero (UTG): $439.60
MP: $453.00
CO: $838.20
BTN: $382.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, MP calls $14.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $72.00</font>,
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:22 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

Having a player like this to your direct left seems like a good argument for folding preflop. It's not like KTo utg will be a big winner anyways.

You folded in the other hands?
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

i agree with possibly folding UTG.

and yes i folded similar hands to this the other couple times.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $744.50
BB: $406.00
Hero (UTG): $467.00
CO: $342.00
BTN: $655.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, CO calls $14.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($34) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $72.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $48.00 returned to CO

Pot Size: $82.00 ($3 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $533.30
BB: $390.00
UTG: $486.70
MP: $162.55
CO: $735.80
BTN: $394.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Flop: ($24) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $64.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $44.00 returned to BB

Pot Size: $64.00 ($3 Rake)

and a hand I found in my DB

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Finmacul: $715.50
The_Roo_Baby_: $345.10
Hero: $1,001.30
BlackGoblin: $912.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero folds, <font color="red">BlackGoblin raises to $14.00</font>, Finmacul folds, The_Roo_Baby_ calls $10.00

Flop: ($30) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
The_Roo_Baby_ checks, <font color="red">BlackGoblin bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">The_Roo_Baby_ raises to $72.00</font>, BlackGoblin folds
Uncalled bet of $48.00 returned to The_Roo_Baby_

Pot Size: $78.00 ($2 Rake)

these are pulled from a 550 hand sample
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

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i agree with possibly folding UTG.

and yes i folded similar hands to this the other couple times.

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I call the flop. The turn will be tough to play oop though. There's not that many draws possible, but you're still ahead very often on the flop.

If you did call, the turn blanks and he bets pot you're def in a pickle. A raise c-bet-% would be really nice. I might be playing for stacks if he pots the turn, there's not plenty of combos strong enough to be worth potting the turn and it would be strange if he did pot those hands because the board isn't terribly drawy and he could easily bet 2/3 and get it in over turn/river anyway.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

his raise c-bet is 15.15 (10/66) according to PAHUD.

i actually don't know if this is a lot or a little. also, do you know where can this stat be found in PT?

i did call the flop.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $661.50
BB: $426.60
Hero (UTG): $439.60
MP: $453.00
CO: $838.20
BTN: $382.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, MP calls $14.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $72.00</font>, Hero calls $48.00

Turn: ($178) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $132.00</font>,
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

now shove
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

I called planning on c/c for stacks on the river.

Is this legitimate given that I probably don't get called by many worse hands on the turn anyway?
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

too much monies in the pot to allow a free random card. he can still call with worse
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: KT, TP2K facing a raise from donkish multitabler

right, i was just thinking that if he has a better hand i'm losing my stack anyway, so i may as well stack T9
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