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Old 08-02-2007, 09:54 AM
Huggy Huggy is offline
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Default Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

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BB ($580)
UTG ($410.30)
MP ($889.30)
Hero ($400)
Button ($981.45)
SB ($425)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB calls $14, BB raises to $80, Hero raises to $400

I have only been at table for a few orbits but have been raising and re-raising alot, and so have a very active table image.

When i 4-bet i didnt do it insta but i did do it v. fast. What false timing tell would you have tried to employ

I think villian is quite a good player. Do you like?
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

i just call here most of the time
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

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Old 08-02-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

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i just call here most of the time

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let him fire $130 on the flop and then you shove for another $210 or so which he will have to snap call.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

If villain is aggressive I call here and trap on the flop, unless of course the flop is absolutely disgusting.

Given your perceived image I quite like a push and I think you're getting called here with a wider range than normal.

I doubt a timing tell is of great importance; villain either has a big hand or doesn't and I don't think he's really looking at your speed of pushing as a big factor.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

i don't like your play at all. if he's semi-decent he's going to know you have KK,AA. personally i think it's 70% push 30% call and set a tarp. i think a push is going to get called by AK+ like 80% of the time, where as your re-raise is almost never going to get called by AK-QQ. as played, you're hand is pretty clearly defined, despite your brief table history and corresponding image.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:42 PM
_pairwin_ _pairwin_ is offline
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

So this is your first 4bet. I think a call PF and shove over the Cbet on the flop is pretty standard. There's only a select number of hands that are going to call/shove over especially if villian is a good player. I know its 2/4 but he could be squeezing here with a marginal hand, calling is much more +EV.
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Overbet 4-bet with AA any thoughts?

I normally do flat call behind here. But to mix it up i shoved, what ratios do you like to shove/call and do you prefer a shove or rasie to like 220
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