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Old 08-02-2007, 04:38 AM
Peter Peter is offline
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Default AA OOP deepstacked with history

Opponent is 47/10 and in the first orbit we already had two all-in hands against eachother. The first hand was my very first hand at the table and I butchered that up pretty bad:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed)
Preflop: Peter is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises to $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises to $60</font>, UTG calls $40.

Flop: ($122) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Peter bets $75</font>, UTG calls $75.

Turn: ($272) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Peter calls $65 (All-In), UTG calls $65.

River: ($402) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Opponent showed ATo.

The very next orbit I'm in the BB with AA, UTG limpraises again and this time I decide to reraise all-in, figuring if he calls the 4bet with ATo, he'll call an all-in with a lot too especially if he figures I'm tilting.
He did call with JJ and I took it down.

So about an hour later, we are both deepstacked and the following hand takes place. Normally I would just bet the flop, turn and river, but this time I decided to play it differently. Maybe because we were deepstacked, maybe because I figured he would call down a cr with TP as well. Or should being deepstacked make it even better to just bet, bet, bet?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($200)
Button ($203.90)
SB ($384.05)
Peter ($662.75)
UTG ($730.84)
MP ($245.46)

Preflop: Peter is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises to $12</font>, UTG calls $10.

Flop: ($25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Peter bets $20</font>, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($65) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Peter checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises to $100</font>, UTG calls $68.

River: ($265) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Peter bets $150</font>,
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Old 08-02-2007, 04:58 AM
5thStreetHog 5thStreetHog is offline
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

I like it,why,did he come back over top of you???
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

Just to add,i usually bet turn obviously.But if someone is floating me all day with all kinds of marginal hands with the intention of firing me off pots,ill mix in a turn check raise here and there if im really really confident he will bet turn every time i shut it down.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:05 AM
xSCWx xSCWx is offline
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

I think you should be betting more like $200 given the history.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

raise turn to 130 or so fire river way more moniez pls
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Old 08-02-2007, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

I like the line. If he pushes on the river I have to vomit though (and probably fold as basically noone bluffs a 3 buyin push).
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

He called with QTo and MHIG. I posted because a friend who is way better than me said he didn't like it and would just bet every street.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

i agree with your friend, unless this guy floats/bluffs
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

i much prefer pot/pot/pot
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AA OOP deepstacked with history

The history indicates to me that he would be betting the turn when you showed weakness fairly often to beat you out of a pot so I think a c/r is fine.

I think you have to make the c/r bigger. A pot sized raise is 160. I like 120-130. If he was drawing you gave him great odds by only making it 3x.

As played, I think you have to bet the river for more. I think your bet might be better than a $200+ bet if was really bad postflop and would call down as lightly as JsXs, but if not, just go ahead and make it two bills. He is likely calling with any made hand he called the turn with considering river was a blank.
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