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Old 08-12-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $493.10
BB: $429.30
UTG: $400.00
UTG+1: $269.70
MP1: $83.00
MP2: $180.20
CO: $238.65
BTN: $393.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $8.00, Hero calls $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($32) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $8.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $8.00, <font color="red">BB raises to $32.00</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $24.00

Turn: ($104) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($104) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $95.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $190.00</font>, Hero ?

Call or Shove?
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

I think its a call
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

You never took charge of the hand, you have no idea where you stand. I don't know how you can fold to the min raise.

The action on the flop is exactly what you wanted, why no raise? Get your money in the pot there!
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:17 PM
hielo_uno hielo_uno is offline
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

the only hand thats beat you is 99, so easy call here.
altho i would play this hand alot more aggressively, cuz if the board pairs, your deuces lose lots value here. I used to slow play alot to, but now i realize that slow play loses value sometimes.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

You played this hand kind weird, but as played just pooosh.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

I think he has a naked 5 a lot
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

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the only hand thats beat you is 99, so easy call here.

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Uh, not quite.

I just call because the BB's hand certainly looks like 95 more than it looks like A9. Next time, get more aggressive...he clearly wants to play a big pot, so if you want to play the flop so slow, at least lead out on the turn.
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

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You played this hand kind weird, but as played just pooosh.

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Ya I agree, I played it kinda weird. Not usually my style to play sets so slowly but I thought the board was dry enough. But if I pushed, wouldn't u say I'd only get called by a better hand here?
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

Depends on your mood. I would have liked to find out where I stand earlier in the hand, but as played, either option is find. My guess is you have him beat. In the BB calling a mini raise with just about anything, I'd say naked 5 and push. But there are a few hands that have you beat and you have no idea where you stand, so calling is a valid option as well. 95, A5 could be hands well against his "please call me" mini raise on the river.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: NL400 bottom full house facing a river raise.

As a side question how do you consider minraise on the river. I never minraise for obvious reasons. Is there any situation where a minraise on the river could be the right move? You don't have the giving very good odds problem.
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