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Old 07-31-2007, 08:16 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

Villain is very agro: 29/18/4.45 5800 hands filtered.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1470
MP3: t1740
Hero: t1470
Button: t1520
SB: t1480
BB: t1320

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t80</font>, 2 folds, BB calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t110)</font>.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t170, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t240</font>, Hero calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t530)</font>.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t650, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t440</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1150</font>
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:15 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

i think i fold the turn. that 2 does not help you. hands like 84s 64s, A4, etc are all in his range. plus 88-JJ and sets, two pair.

the only thing i can ever see you really being ahead of are A6 and K6s and a remote 76 86s.

also, a 29/18 lag is not as crazy as a 55/18 lag.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:06 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

FWIW, I like limping pf
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:07 PM
TwistedEcho TwistedEcho is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

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FWIW, I like limping pf

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i'm not sure, i just hate open limping the CO

I think i fold the turn
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:12 PM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

Open limping the CO isn't horrible but I'd much rather raise.

Anyways, I'd be willing to go broke on the flop with a shove vs this opponent. He's only 29/18 so the only hand we're really behind is a set. He may have a combo pair/draw here or maybe just a straight donk minraise bluff with MP or BP. Calling just bloats the pot and never really slows down a villain like this. He's always putting us to the test on the turn.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:24 PM
stevi3p stevi3p is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

given your reads i think this is just about ok, but i probably fold the turn because i'm a nit.

if you want to get it all in at some point, i actually quite like calling the flop and shoving the turn. i don't think shoving the flop gets any better hands to fold so you may as well get more value out of hands like a6 by delaying the shove.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:58 PM
DDBeast DDBeast is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

Crappy spot. I probably just shove the flop. You have 6 outs. Calling is really awkward here with these stacks. Chances are you won't like the turn and he will bet again. If he had just a pot sized bet left you could safely call but you both still have chips behind, and you might me forced to make a more awkward push.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:54 PM
DCJ311 DCJ311 is offline
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

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Crappy spot. I probably just shove the flop. You have 6 outs. Calling is really awkward here with these stacks. Chances are you won't like the turn and he will bet again. If he had just a pot sized bet left you could safely call but you both still have chips behind, and you might me forced to make a more awkward push.

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Shove FLOP? Yikes I don't know how I feel about that in this spot. The guy is very LAG but if you're planning to shove the flop you must bet more on the flp initially- something like 180-200 to induce a bigger c/r.

FWIW you must almost always raise preflop unless your metagame is really weird and unorthodox.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: $114: 77 overpair vs LAG

bet 100-120 pf , you wanna steal blinds, not play flop.
flop bet 150-170 . after miniraise it's often mean monstr and you have only 2 decision push or fold . It's difficult but i push here .
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