$6.50 2 hands I'm not sure about~

carko3 · #1 08-01-2007, 10:12 AM

Hello. I'm very new to sngs but I have a fairly basic understanding etc, what to push when (although I'm not as knowledgable on ICM as I'd like).

These two hands probably have a lot to do with why I'm not a good player yet, so any feedback would be great.

HAND 1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t4055)
MP1 (t625)
Hero (t1350)
CO (t2015)
Button (t1125)
SB (t1470)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t1380)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t1350, 3 folds, BB calls t1250.

Flop: (t2750) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2750) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2750) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2750

HAND 2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t2895)
MP (t1975)
Hero (t1450)
SB (t4185)
BB (t2995)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1450, SB calls t1350, 1 fold, UTG folds.

Flop: (t3300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t3300) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t3300) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t3300

Hand 1 - What's my play preflop here? Am I too deep to shove?

Hand 2 - I'd noticed that guy had limped a lot and had been weak, so i decided to shove A4. Considering the blinds etc etc was this a good/bad play?

blowbubbles · #2 08-01-2007, 10:20 AM

Hand 1. Yes, to deep to push. Either standard raise of 250-300, or as my line would be (call me a tight nit) - fold.

Hand 2. Better than hand 1, and you could end up getting away with stealing 500 chips here. But I guess your hand is too weak, and you know for sure you are beaten when somebody (limper or anybody) calls you. I'd wait for a better spot.

IcemanDan · #3 08-01-2007, 10:25 AM

For Hand 2-- I think your hand might not be strong enough to shove over a limper. It also depends on how wide a range you think the blinds and the limper will call with. If you expect them to call a push with only the very best hands, pushing hands like this will win the blinds enough to be +EV. There aren't an abundance of players like that at the 6.50s though.

santiagoz · #4 08-01-2007, 10:45 AM

Hand 1 - I like a raise 2,5x

Hand 2 - with the reads standard.

STALLOWN3D · #5 08-01-2007, 10:56 AM

Hand 1 - I just fold here. You're too deep to push and I think a raise of 2.5xbb just puts you in awkward position if you get called. Plus someone could come over the top and you have another tough decision.

Hand 2 - If you'd seen him limp/fold before then I don't hav a problem with a push. If there were antes then I'd be more inclined to push here. I'd probably just let this go here.