2 hands; Same villain

Bona · #1 08-02-2007, 08:21 AM

These two hands occurred in the same orbit with the same villain. My read on the villain wasn't well defined. I had him at 20/11/4.5 over 86 hands but wasn't sure on either hand whether he was "there" or not.

My table stats were 22/12/3 and I hadn't shown down light.

Any thoughts appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, CO raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.70 BB

sharpie · #2 08-02-2007, 08:50 AM

1) Raising the flop for a free card is almost never correct with a 6 outer against an aggressive villain heads up.

2) I'd just fold the flop. Check/calling 3 streets can't be good.

Hielko · #3 08-02-2007, 08:51 AM

[ QUOTE ]
1) Raising the flop for a free card is almost never correct with a 6 outer against an aggressive villain heads up.

2) I'd just fold the flop. Check/calling 3 streets can't be good.

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NIX · #4 08-02-2007, 09:49 AM

H1 - I think if I'm raising the flop, I'm gonna bet the turn as well to get a fold since your draw to top pair won't come in that often and the chance of being reverse dominated.

H2 - I think the flop hit so much of his range with a pair of aces or just starting with a big pair that I fold and look for a better spot. If I had a better read, I would consider trying to get him to fold those pairs (if he's fit or fold), but otherwise, I just fold the flop.

JJack · #5 08-02-2007, 10:28 AM

*grunch*

H1
I hate situation like this.
My line here is call his bet at flop (no matter i made hand or i draw) and c/f UI turn(c/r my good hands to punish donker)
This line assume that donker dont know if im ahead or behind and i use his agro.

H2
I dont limp with small PP at EP at so agro table.
As played i fold flop.

carlosoli · #6 08-02-2007, 02:07 PM

1) Fold to flop bet. He is betting into a raiser that was not in a steal position and all you have is overcards

2) Fold to flop bet. It may be a c-bet with two big cards, but it is not worth drawing to 2 outs.

Reaction · #7 08-02-2007, 02:09 PM

2- I think the only reason I limp this EP is to get Iso'd by an aggressive. Then I C/R most flops, including this one.

Harv72b · #8 08-02-2007, 02:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
1) Raising the flop for a free card is almost never correct with a 6 outer against an aggressive villain heads up.

2) I'd just fold preflop. Check/calling 3 streets can't be good.

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I would much rather call all the way to showdown in Hand 1 than Hand 2.