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Old 07-28-2007, 07:44 AM
jmxthievez jmxthievez is offline
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Default Turn monster draw, check or bet?

I'm posting this in MSNL b/c it's kind of a rudimentary question I know. However, I've been in this spot a lot and have seldom known the correct play and was wondering what the majority of 2p2ers thought is most correct. Don't worry about me being results oriented because this hand never made it to showdown.

This situation I'm describing is when you have a great draw, even one not as good as this one, like the nut flush draw and against one specific type of villain only. The calling station fish. Villain here is 39/8/1.3, calls a lot and is a general donk and makes awkward random bluffs.

In this spot, do you check or bet? if you bet how much? $2500 100bb stacks to start.
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($6810)
Hero ($2500)
MP ($2915)
CO ($652)
Button ($450)
SB ($8143.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>,

Hero raises to $85 UTG, SB calls $85, BB calls $85.

Flop: ($255) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $175</font>, SB calls $175, BB folds.

Turn: ($605) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:52 AM
LucidDream LucidDream is offline
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

i'd be betting turn w/ any 2 w/ the intention of firing most rivers anyway.
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:56 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

Oh loookie, scare card, i bet.
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

bettie bettie
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:45 AM
ajloeffl ajloeffl is offline
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

I'd say bet here if there is any chance he will fold. The king may be a good scare scare to represent if this guy doesn't just blindly call to the river no matter what.

If he does call no matter what then check the turn and hope you hit that draw. A benefit of position and checking the turn is that he may bet the river no matter what comes (maybe as a bluff, maybe value) which could give you some nice value to raise if you hit the draw and he actually has a hand.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:27 AM
phantom_lord phantom_lord is offline
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

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I'd say bet here if there is any chance he will fold. The king may be a good scare scare to represent if this guy doesn't just blindly call to the river no matter what.


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even if you don't have a great deal of f/e, is betting the turn not still good since you build a pot for when you hit your draw and get him to call a much larger bet?
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Turn monster draw, check or bet?

betting is good for various reasons, with FE being the least important.
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