So many options with a draw but oop

[Barrin6]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $696.00
BB: $396.00
UTG: $594.80
CO: $402.00
BTN: $550.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $12.00, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($42) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero ??????

Original pf raiser is Myhipsdontlie and the guy in the BB is cookbythebook. Myhipsdontlie is like 29/20 or so and cookbythecook is just some straightforward tag imo.

Flop, do you guys lead, c/r or just c/c? What's your plan and why?

[john kane]

reraise/fold pf?

generally playing scons oop vs a 29/20 isnt going to be profitable imo.

for sure it is 910s rather than 45s, but still, im not going to be playing this for pair value, after all i dont call 910o and the suited aspect is only useful 1 in 15 times or so.

i check-fold. or lead-3bet.

check-folding becuase im not getting implied odds and dont think ill try and take him off it, and lead-3bet becuase given his hand range pf i think he raises my lead pretty light.

c/c is spewy as is c/r. c/r you'll get peeled too often, whereas 3bet will put him at the tough decision.

[2cards2come]

yea i wouldnt call from sb w/ 910d to begin w/...but i know thats not the question. id usually check call w/ two people left to act behind you, but i could just be a nit. if it were heads up id lead at the pot. w/ that flop one of the two could very likely have hit it. keep pot small oop and take one card as cheaply as possible.

[orange]

Don't really like PF.

I would probably b/3-b or c/c.

[tcorbin16]

check raise, fire turn spade or if u hit ur hand.

[Big_Jim]

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Agreed.

b3b is huge spew here. Our draw isn't good enough for it, and we don't fold out hardly anything that raises for value.

C/cing is gross too since our draw is weak, and we can't credibly represent anything other than a flush (if it comes), and our draw really doesn't have much value.

[jlocdog]

I hate our draw. Undercards to the board and on a 2 tone flop in which we don't hold the FD or even the backdoor. I have no problem b/f (unless the BB raises small and CO just calls) or even c/f for that matter. Not the flop you were looking for when you made a loose call PF.

[xorbie]

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check raise, fire turn spade or if u hit ur hand.

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yeah srsly. b/3bet is the worst line, followed closely by c/f. c/c is not as good as crai imo. if bb was a fish, c/c becomes a lot more appropriate, but i see no point in having someone in the pot who rarely has enough to pay us off if we do hit our hand but won't fold later for one bet if he does call now (either a good J or Q, normally).

pf is also totally fine. not playing this for pair value is absurd vs this villain.

[Number27]

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check raise, fire turn spade or if u hit ur hand.

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Agreed.

b3b is huge spew here. Our draw isn't good enough for it, and we don't fold out hardly anything that raises for value.

C/cing is gross too since our draw is weak, and we can't credibly represent anything other than a flush (if it comes), and our draw really doesn't have much value.

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So we're going to c/f a blank turn?

[True]

I think c/c is the best followed by lead/eval followed by c/r and c/f closely.