PLO8 $8.80 MTT - 2234 hits set on flop, faces action

greggg230 · #1 07-24-2007, 08:28 PM

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1460
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1220
Hero: t1470
MP3: t1590
CO: t1340
Button: t2640
SB: t1440
BB: t1255

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero calls t20 (pot was t30), MP3 calls t20 (pot was t50), CO calls t20 (pot was t70), Button calls t20 (pot was t90), SB calls t10 (pot was t110), BB raises to t140, Hero calls t120 (pot was t240), MP3 calls t120 (pot was t360), CO calls t120 (pot was t480), Button calls t120 (pot was t600), SB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t720, 5 players)
BB bets t720, Hero raises all-in t1330

I have a good low draw and a set. Villain could easily have AA or flush draw here and not KK, right?

Also, should I have called the raise with this hand in MP?

franknagaijr · #2 07-24-2007, 09:15 PM

This is one of the few low sets I actually like. This is early in the 8.80 donkament, and the range of hands here looks favorable for you. From worst to best

A3KK or A488(ouch)
AA3x or AA4x with a flush draw
AA3x or AA4x
AAxx with a flush draw
Anything else

Without doing a specific probability analysis, think that with this range of hands, putting your chips in the middle heads-up is probably break even or better. It's the other players who are likely to put it in with their weak flush draws and weak low draws mixed with inside draws that are going to crush you here, and even a boat won't be enough.
Still, if you survive, you'll have a decent chip stack.

bbartlog · #3 07-25-2007, 12:30 AM

I wouldn't expect a sensible player to raise KKxx from the BB (except maybe A2KK/A3KK). I would expect AAwx to be a big part of his range here. However, if he's any good he's not going to bet pot with four players to act unless he has something like AA3x or AAwx suited in diamonds. Or A3KK of course...
Too bad stacks aren't a little deeper so you could just flat call the raise and then maybe jam the turn. As is though I think getting it all in on the flop is fine. No sense letting someone else draw to the flush for cheap (though I actually think BB has the NFD here much of the time anyway).

Omaha8sPoker · #4 07-25-2007, 02:09 AM

I think this is spewy to call a raise with this hand this early in a tourney..You need a VERY specific flop for this hand to be good...For this hand you got that flop, but there are going to be many, many, many other flops that this hand turns to dog$#!T in a hurry...

While I agree with BBart that most likely his range SHOULD include AA hands, in these low limit PLO8 tourneys it really doesn't have to...I've seen people raise with all sorts of crazy $#!T from OOP...

Borys313 · #5 07-26-2007, 04:33 PM

I dont understand your question. Did you expected to flop better then this?