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25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
This table is full of Tags. I've been running about 23/19 and people have started 3 betting me, I'm assuming light but I don't know because I have mostly been folding to 3bets. Villain is a multi-tabling TAG, he had just 3 bet me on previous hand.
Absolute Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $12.30 Hero: $34.45 CO: $51.25 Button: $8.95 SB: $93.25 BB: $20.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11</font>, CO calls. The flat call really threw me off, I was expecting either a fold or push. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($22.35, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $25.75 <font color="black"> Was betting the flop correct? Once I bet, can I fold my over pair? <font color="black"> </font> |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
I think this is really read dependent. Ive seen people do this with AA but also AK. He might have AK with the heart or he might already have you crushed, I would check and fold the flop to any bet after the preflop flat call, especially on this board.
With your flop bet the pot goes to $33 and its only $15 more so I guess you have to call? (someone correct me if I'm wrong) |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
i'm probably shutting down unless i really hit the flop....once you bet you are basically committing yourself. As played you would have more discipline than i do to fold after betting here, but I'm guessing i would be looking at an overpair with a heart.
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
Tough Spot.
The flat call also kinda throws me off as well. I suppose these are the hands I would put him/her on: JJ+.. A(h)k (maybe..) Basically it's likely that an overpair greater then yours is present here. That is what I feel anyway. At this point you only have $12.45 left (?). His minimum raise looks like a ploy to not appear extremely strong like I think he is. I don't know though. I could be entirely off. I think you're probably beat in this spot. I think if he had A(h)K, he may have just shoved the flop hoping to get you out. The minimum raise looks like it's begging for a call. |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
@ynotraise Villain is putting hero all in, its not a minraise.
Villain is not reraising without AK+heart or a pair bigger than yours, I think you should have check/folded the flop after the flat call preflop, especially without a heart in your hand. |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
Right right. My bad. Guess I kept reading that as $22 for some reason.
Thanks for the correction. I think after your flop bet as someone else stated, you were basically committed. I like Suited_Queens c/f. |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
yes, I'm check folding this flop as well
fwiw I'd bet/fold this flop if it were rainbow |
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
4 betting JJ out of position is going to be spew most of the time. Usally a flat call preflop there from them means AA/KK
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Re: 25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?
I agree that you're going to see AA/KK a lot after his flat call and I usually don't 4-bet JJ pre flop in this spot either
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