100NL TT OOP vs 4 bet Sexy or Spew

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Opponent is readless

I'm not sure about this.

Will he fold KK and lesser pairs?

Obv he calls with AK/AQ however his 4 bet PF doesn't seem to be AK


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $99.00
BB: $211.15
UTG: $97.90
MP: $139.65
CO: $99.90
BTN: $39.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $42.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $26.00

Flop: ($88.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $57.00</font>

[ViZioN]

against an unknown opponent i'm pitching 10 10 OOP after a 4 bet from UTG

[tarheeljks]

pf is gross. i think you will get called here a lot

[Low ROI]

If you think you're ahead when the ace hits the flop, then why not get it all in PF? I dunno, I just don't think he's laying down KK or QQ anyway, and AK and AA are obv calling. I'd fold PF after the 4 bet.

[PoppaTMan]

The only way you can justify this is if it looks like villain is playing scared money. Otherwise, there's a plethora of reasons that villain will look you up:

1) Already invested 40BB preflop.
2) You donk-shoved the flop when stacks only had 2/3 pot left. Who plays an ace like this?

I'd look you up with any legitimate hand I'm 4betting UTG (QQ+). If opponent folds here, you probably had the best hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[tarheeljks]

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If you think you're ahead when the ace hits the flop, then why not get it all in PF? I dunno, I just don't think he's laying down KK or QQ anyway, and AK and AA are obv calling. I'd fold PF after the 4 bet.

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he doesn't think he's ahead, he's bluffing.

[suited77]

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Opponent is readless

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Given stack sizes, pot odds, preflop 4bettedness, etc. I can't imagine you're gonna get away with this unless against a pretty incompetent opponent who just happens to hold JJ-KK. But given reads, or lack thereof, this looks pretty spewy.

[whangarei]

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against an unknown opponent i'm pitching 10 10 OOP after a 4 bet from UTG

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You are essentially playing for stacks here with your PF call. Maybe a generous 10% chance opponent folds on the flop. Assume you don't fold post-flop. You are obviously at best 50/50 to his hand PF, and let's say half the time a 20/80 dog.

So:

opp. folds flop: +46 * .1 = +4.6
opp. two overs: +0 * .45 = +0
opp. bigger pair: -60 * .45 = -27

So, less expensive to fold after being 4-bet (-16) than to continue with the hand (-22).

Is an at least 50% JJ+ assumption fair for a typical 100NL villain?

[nanonoko]

Do yourself a favor and fold preflop. If you thought 1010 was good push preflop given stack sizes. Seeing a flop...and you thinking he has that range...you already think you're behind so you are trying to set mine? If you are...you got no odds.