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Old 07-24-2007, 01:29 AM
Insistent_ Insistent_ is offline
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Swedish site, something like $0.5/1 NL.
Opponent is unknown but I have been running over the table lately so he might very well play back at me pre-flop.

1. Size on pre-flop re-raise IP - what's your standard here?
2. Decisions on the flop?

5.00/10.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - den 23 juli 2007 21:53:46
Eva 8 (Vanlig /Cash Game )
Seat 1: jAKIEEELOL (1337.15)
Seat 2: Ironmind (1249.50)
Seat 3: HEROt (1408.65)
Seat 5: Dr.Falcon (2092.10)
Dr.Falcon SB 5.00
jAKIEEELOL BB 10.00

jAKIEEELOL [N/A, N/A]
Ironmind [N/A, N/A]
Seat [Kc, Ac]
Dr.Falcon [N/A, N/A]

Ironmind Fold
HERO Raise to 40.00
Dr.Falcon Fold
jAKIEEELOL Raise to 120.00
HERO Raise to 340.00
jAKIEEELOL Call 340.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [4s, As, 3s]
*** Bet Fold SB 2 ***
jAKIEEELOL Fold BB
HERO Bets 450.00
jAKIEEELOL All-in 997.15
HERO Call 997.15
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: AK

i dont think u can fold getting 1:4 =/
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:00 AM
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

5,940 games 0.005 secs 1,188,000 games/sec

Board: As 4s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.636% 12.02% 01.62% 714 96.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 86.364% 84.75% 01.62% 5034 96.00 { 4c4d, 4c4h, 3c3h, AcKc, KsQs, 8s7s, KsQc }


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8,910 games 0.005 secs 1,782,000 games/sec

Board: As 4s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.395% 30.89% 07.51% 2752 669.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 61.605% 54.10% 07.51% 4820 669.00 { QcQs, QdQs, QhQs, KsQs, 8s7s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AcQs, AdQs, AhQs }
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:05 AM
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Any suggestions on what opponents HD is?
I just tried to take some of the hands he could play, discarded some of them assuming a certain percent was folded pre-flop and so forth.

I don't really know what process you should use to define a hand range.

Maybe you should start by thinking about how many percent I for example in this example get a call on my last raise pre-flop and so on......


My on ideas on this hand is that my bet is terrible. I have no outs and reversed implied odds. Only against AK0/AQo and pairs with no spade am I "safe" and those hands will to try to get a cheap showdown.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:26 AM
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I would play it the same.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:14 AM
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I still think it's a HORRIBLE play!
Not the call maybe but definately to bet that flop.
What is speaking against a check?
It just seems stupid to put in 2xthe pot without a spade here.

Some probable hands:
QQ/JJ/TT - he will try to get a free showdown or get out, unless he has a spade, and then I am 57% favorite only.

KsQs - dead
AK - 50/50 or 32%

The good thing with the bet is that I won't get bluffed on the turn if a spade hits and I won't give a free card to something like 6h6s.

Maybe the best thing is to half pot it and fold to a shove?
Basically "bluffing" pairs with a spade in it <and such hands> out of their "part" of the pot equity wise. The sad thing is when I fold to an AQ non spade though. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:22 AM
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Hmm, I made a mistake there. It is true that he has a lot of outs but I will be able to bet at the turn. So my sugggestion is:

Check flop.
Bet pot on turn if no spade. Check behind on the river.
Call turn bet with no spade. Call river bet with no spade.

Makes sense?

Ps. And in the actual hand. I guess I HAVE to call.
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