400NL 2 akward hands, what do you like/dislike?

[dirtytricks]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $481.00
BB: $497.10
UTG: $535.40
CO: $434.00
Hero (BTN): $400.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain this hand is a very loose and very passive player 40/1 over a small sample. Havent seen him betting much postflop at all.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29.00</font>, BB calls $25.00

Turn: ($88) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $454.10</font>, Hero calls all-in for $357.00
Uncalled bet of $97.10 returned to BB

River: ($802) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $802.00 ($3 Rake)



Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $514.70
BB: $330.00
UTG: $386.00
Hero (MP): $547.50
CO: $341.55
BTN: $155.90

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain this hand is a strange one. 26/7 over about 200 hands, very passive preflop but pretty aggro postflop. Not very spewy but obviously bad.

Preflop I actually think I am behind his range since he never squeezes light and probably flatcalls QQ and AK in this spot.

So I decide to not get it in preflop. He is betting weak all the way as you see and the board is bad.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, CO calls $14.00, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $36.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $22.00, CO folds

Flop: ($90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00

Turn: ($170) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $72.00</font>, Hero calls $72.00

River: ($314) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $156.00</font>, Hero calls $156.00

Pot Size: $626.00 ($3 Rake)

[Trivial]

Hand one I would probably make the flop $32 but that is merely a cosmetic detail. I think the turn call is fine/standard.

In the second hand I don't object to your line and river may even be a fold against this chap... what can ye do though.

[catcher193]

hand 1 is fine
hand 2 id try really hard to stop myself from raising that river and hopefully play it as you did.

[dirtytricks]

Are you guys levelling me? I think I played hand 2 horribly.

[Snygaard]

I dont like preflop in hand 2. You dont want to just call the small 3-bet with CO left to act behind you.

[catcher193]

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Are you guys levelling me? I think I played hand 2 horribly.

[/ QUOTE ]are you leveling me? come on now, whats there to change what are you thoughts etc. there is nothing to suggest another line.

[JKratzer]

1 looks fine.
2 really comes down to your read of this guy. if you feel like he really only 3-bets with AA (which isn't unreasonable for some people) then you need to play this for set value (which you are more than priced in for pre). so, when you don't hit your set you gotta fold. that being said i really can't find a street i'd fold, with his small bets. maaaybe river but even then i don't blame you for calling.

[T0ne D0wn]

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if you feel like he really only 3-bets with AA (which isn't unreasonable for some people) then you need to play this for set value (which you are more than priced in for pre).so, when you don't hit your set you gotta fold.

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...plz tell me you are not serious. Dont you coach people? This is embaressingly bad advice.

[dirtytricks]

Yes, I was actually calling for set value or maybe win a medium pot since I dont think he bluffs multiple streets. Still I have to call the flop since it is a continuation bet and Im not 100% sure he has me beat, but on the turn I really should consider folding and I think river is a clear fold. But for some reason I couldnt fold to his small bets even if I knew I was beat. This is not AK/AQ and JJ, QQ got there.

I think this hand was about trusting your read and I was pretty confident about it but couldnt take the proper action.

If Im calling down like this I could rather 4bet/call preflop getting some value from QQ and it is probably not much -EV anyway but calling for set value is more profitable if I can fold I think.

I find some relief in others also calling down here. He had the rockets off course.

First hand I snap called and it was a cooler QJ but there is no way Im getting away there.

[T0ne D0wn]

callling for set value with KK...wttttttf