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Old 07-20-2007, 01:14 AM
beachbum beachbum is offline
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Default I <3 the turn

Villain is a 28/19 TAG. He seems to 3bet light in the blinds when I open in a steal position. He seems fairly solid, but no specific reads.

Every street standard?


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SB: $134.85
BB: $20.60
beachbum (UTG): $158.00
MP: $52.45
CO: $97.50
BTN: $131.20

Preflop: beachbum is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">beachbum raises to $3.50</font>, MP calls $3.50, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12.00</font>, 2 folds, beachbum calls $8.50, MP folds

Flop: ($29) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
beachbum checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $20.00</font>, beachbum calls $20.00

Turn: ($69) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
beachbum checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">beachbum raises all-in to $126.00</font>, BTN folds
Uncalled bet of $94.00 returned to beachbum

Pot Size: $133.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:15 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

nh
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

Very standard with second nuts.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

I think crai on the turn is really the least likely way of getting paid here tbh. A check/minraise (lol yes I'm serious) or perhaps a turn stop and go I think will get you some action from a random low club or a stubborn ace or what not more than the crai.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:43 AM
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I think going allin on the flop is better than calling, unless you feel comfortable going with a read and calling down turn/river. Also when did 28/19 become TAG??
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

a stop n go here on the river is an excellent idea.

or, cc the turn and cc the river. I think you get lots more value these ways than crai.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:19 AM
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a stop n go here on the river is an excellent idea.

or, cc the turn and cc the river. I think you get lots more value these ways than crai.

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Terrible for meta though.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

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I think going allin on the flop is better than calling, unless you feel comfortable going with a read and calling down turn/river. Also when did 28/19 become TAG??

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I wasn't confident enough that I either had the best hand or the best draw on the flop, that's why I just c/c'd. The turn made me much more confident my hand was best. The flop was definitely the toughest street, and I don't know what I would've done on a blank turn.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:32 AM
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a stop n go here on the river is an excellent idea.

or, cc the turn and cc the river. I think you get lots more value these ways than crai.

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Terrible for meta though.

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I actually think I like a c/c turn, lead river. Why don't you like it for shania? It might make 2 pair or better feel more "committed" on the river.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: I <3 the turn

I think either line, CRAI Turn, C/C turn, lead river, both lines will be hard to extract more chips on 4-flush boards.. it kind of is what it is against most villains who won't make hero calls with 2-pair.
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