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Old 07-20-2007, 08:44 AM
Trix Trix is offline
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Default Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

20/40 mirage, I open TT MLPish, asian semi fish girl calls in sb, she is tilting, online pro 3bets from bb, i 4bet, they call. flop 876cc, she checks, online pro bets, 13 sb in, I ?

opp is one of my friends, so we have played before and Iīm pretty sure he thinks I play well though Iīve been playing nl for a while now.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

id raise, i think. if asian 3bets behind you and opp calls flop and turn and river then fold river UI.

of asian calls and OPP 3bets then it's a really tough call whether to cap the flop. i think you are behind a vast majority of the time but capping the flop puts OPP in a really bad spot on the turn and the extra SB on the flop a) doesnt have really bad equity and b)
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

hey i remember you!!
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

I would have just called PF. I don't think there's much chance of the SB folding, given your read, and you'd have a better shot at raising her out on the flop by not 4-betting.

As played, I agree with baronzeus. I'm not all that familiar with live play, but I think there's usually a 5-bet cap; if so, I think that really hurts the merit behind 4-betting the flop, but I'm not sure.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

there is value in putting 4 in straight up EV, and if 5bet cap you get info!
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: Minbet hand at 20/40 Mirage

Most people Iīve asked seem to think itīs a raise. I called and thought it was the right play as the girl is unlikely to fold the flop for 2 cold with any piece in a 15 sb pot and the guy who bet the flop will likely bet turn on most cards that are good to me, so I can raise and get her to either make a big error or not see the river. If I raise the flop and she calls, they are both drawing to the river.
There is also some chance that I can get the other guy off a better hand by calling if an A/K comes on the turn and I just call the flop.
Think itīs somewhat close atleast and havenīt played much limit in the last 9 months or so.
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