Super common KK spot.

[NinaWilliams]

Villain is unknown. I fold here like always unless I have a read that villain is a blufftard. Is this bad?

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises

[mvoss]

This sucks, but I think I b/c, c/c, c/c.

[thorleif]

Looks fine to me,

[Scorcho]

Hero folds, gets pissed off at being 3 (or even 2) outed.

[aargh57]

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This sucks, but I think I b/c, c/c, c/c.

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Just a little confused. In your line you're bet/calling the flop. What about if villain takes this line where he just calls your flop bet, that is, if he just calls the flop and raises turn.

Personally I call down unless a spade card hits the river. I think this has got to be kind of read specific though right? Vs a tight opponent or passive fish I think you can muck the turn but against a TAG/LAG or another aggressive opponent I think that you should look him up. Against an unknown I'm calling.

[callmedonnie]

Against unknowns I showdown big pairs constantly, unless I have some stats on them and the sample is enough that I can have a general sense of them. People take shots all the time without a hand in these games.

Especially when running bad sometimes I used to get pissed for showing down, but lately I think its best in a HU spot like this to SD, realize in the long run you're gonna make money in these spots, and let it go.

That said, I'm wondering if in PT there is a way to filter KK hands w/ Aces on the flop. If there is I don't know it, but I'd be happy to check out my rate of success/failure.

[jstill]

I call the turn raise alot and fold the river, they usually assume u have an A when u call and dont follow up with KQss or whatever. Sometimes I ck call the turn but Id rather bet bet bet vs a worse PP most of the time.

this is kinda one of those spots where we wish we knew more about villains play and whether hes showdown bound with QQ-TT (this board is better than ATx), some people u can ck call the turn and ck fold the river fwiw. vs an unknown i really ahve no idea whats best its definitely not a fun spot I probably call the raise and hope he made some stupid freeshowdown raise or semi bluff hoping to fold out underpairs to the A and cks behind the river.

[jba]

sometimes I check/call the turn but against an unknown I think bet/fold is fine.

[TheWunderkind]

i usally bet this down mostly folding to a raise and vs some trustworthy players i c/f River.

[sharpie]

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Looks fine to me,

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