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Old 07-17-2007, 10:27 AM
moldman moldman is offline
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Default NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

Villain here is 30/11/0.8 over a small sample of about 80 hands, but has been absolutely killing the table and is up about 300 bucks mainly due to this hand:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $88.35
Hero (BB): $202.00
UTG: $193.00
UTG+1: $24.00
<u>MP1: $222.15</u>
MP2: $251.70
CO: $210.80
<u>BTN: $454.10</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, MP2 folds, CO folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $32.00</font>, SB folds, Hero folds, MP1 calls $24.00

Turn: ($72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP1 bets $48.00</font>, BTN calls $48.00

River: ($168) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP1 bets all-in for $140.15</font>, BTN calls $140.15

Pot Size: $448.30 ($3 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Nines) and WON (+$223.15)
MP1 had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ([Ad 7d] a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$222.15)


So, that being said, what to do on this river:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $36.00
BB: $205.75
UTG: $418.80
<u>UTG+1: $271.95</u>
MP1: $215.00
<u>Hero (MP2): $249.00</u>
CO: $150.00
BTN: $193.60

CO posts $2.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2.00, MP1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $9.00

Flop: ($27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $27.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $92.00</font>, UTG+1 calls $65.00

River: ($211) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets all-in for $168.95</font>, Hero ??
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

Fold.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

What range do you put him on that calls you preflop and then calls your overbet on the turn that gave no odds to pursue a flush draw unless it is AT spades? 88, TT+, ...

You are ahead of his range ... I call here
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

A range is kinda hard with such little experience against villain, but if you look at the other hand I posted where he seemed eager and willing to stack off with TPNK on a paired board, I can't imagine his range is too narrow.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

Exactly ... this guy has a huge range ... and you are killing it

Call
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

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Exactly ... this guy has a huge range ... and you are killing it

Call

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LOL this is usually a flush.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:51 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

I'd have a very hard time folding this. The first hand, he limped in. What does he normally limp with and call a pfr with? I, too, cannot see a flush, but if he's an idiot, it's possible. It seems he would have bet a 10 on the flop.

Looks like a set?
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

What flush gets here with the action as described?

What other hands get here?

I agree it can be a flush but I wouldn't say usually.

It costs us $140 to see $380 ... 2.7/1 ... so if it is a flush 60% of the time this is a call and I don't think it is a flush close to that %age
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:04 PM
AragornX151 AragornX151 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

I would usually call here. Your hand is difficult to read too, remember. Oddly played semi-bluff with spades if he has it. I think this is a +EV call.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - straight, but flush gets there on river

Yeah, the guy's a donkey, I call.
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