bad spot to semibluff turn?

[higHstaKesOwneR]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $400
UTG+1: $400
CO: $290
Button: $426.91
SB: $105.84
BB: $359.87

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $24</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($82, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $68</font>

Villian was an unknown who joined the game a few hands before.

I think/thought, that he will have most of the time a pp here.
He might also try float but w/o histroy i don't know...

the turn gave as a fd what are the good news...
the bad news are, that the 3 isn't a scarecard and that my fe shouldn't be that hight aight?

So is it better to just check the turn here?

[mertzo]

I like it, youll get respect since youre an unknown aswell. I stoved it a bit and vs a normal peelingrange with some floats in there he has JJ beaten(good spot to draw the line?) about 50%, so he probably folds about that often. Checking is obv EV+ aswell though.

[jlocdog]

Are you calling his shove?

[AAismyfriend]

I like c/ring here if you suspect he might be floating for obvious reasons. This gets really awkward if you get raised or if you are called and you miss the river.

[FionnMac]

this is fine, we probably have 14+ outs here, if he calls i'd be inclined to bet the river, based on timing tells on the turn and river card etc

[FionnMac]

oh, i've just noticed that villain is short, that's obv not a good sign cos he's probably a fish and will call with 88-JJ. with these stacks, c/r ai might be better.

[Jamougha]

He will normally call with a Q, 7 or a pair higher than a 7. That's most of his range so I don't like this much.

[HiiroYuy]

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Are you calling his shove?

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if the answer is yes, then i like it.
otherwise i like a half pot or check / call up to a PSB.

[Scipio]

A bet on the turn is really bad. Most of the time he will raise or fold against your Bet and then your Outs aren´t important.

c/f or crai are the only logic lines

[higHstaKesOwneR]

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A bet on the turn is really bad. Most of the time he will raise or fold against your Bet and then your Outs aren´t important.

c/f or crai are the only logic lines

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yeah makes sense

the prob is, that if we crai and get called we are a 85/15 dog vs. every Q and a 70/30 dog vs. lets say 88

if we don't know that he is relativly aggro and does moves like a float he will cb most turnes i think
and if he bets and we crai he will hold somethink w/ which he is ready to call [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

i mean he sit's at the table w/ about 75BB and looks like he is taking just a shot at the limit and gambles a bit (fish...)
and most of these players are calling lite and don't bluff that much or? (my experience w/ most of this kind of players)
do we get anoth dead moeny in the pot vs. a unknown maybe weak player to make the crai ev+?

it would be fine if you post your experience in spots like this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]