JJ v SB 3-bet

JFsports · #1 07-12-2007, 08:01 PM

Villain here is 25/22, only over 150 hands or so, this is the first session I've played with him. He has 3-bet a number of times before, mostly taking it preflop or with a c-bet.
I played this session about 22/16

Thoughts on preflop play - 4-bet?, and flop decision appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $392.80
CO: $304.40
Hero: $216.10
SB: $423.50
BB: $63.30

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $25, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($52, 2 players)
SB bets $50

jlocdog · #2 07-12-2007, 08:23 PM

If he has been an active 3bettor from OOP then I most likely 4bet preflop.

As played, I probably just jam. Too many cards you no likey. Not a disaster to make an inferior hand fold so the argument that only a better hand calls I don't think applies here.

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trambopoline · #3 07-13-2007, 01:53 AM

Shoving is your best option. Folding is not, IMO.

AAismyfriend · #4 07-13-2007, 01:55 AM

yea folding here sucks, jam now or call with the intention of getting it in on just about any turn.

HockeyChecker · #5 07-13-2007, 02:38 AM

raaaaaiiiise

Colms · #6 07-13-2007, 02:40 AM

I like just called 3-bet. A case can be made for 4betting pre but I prefer the call in position. Shove flop.

yoshi86 · #7 07-13-2007, 03:57 AM

arrrrrrrin. a 25/22's range vs a 22/16's range is pretty wide here just shove

JFsports · #8 07-13-2007, 03:44 PM

Ok thanks, what are people's estimates of the SB's range here? What is a typical 3-betting range for that type of player from the SB v a button raise?
By shoving I think I obviously get called by TT+, and I don't think I get called by anything I'm beating (is AT in his 3-betting range?). I'm shoving for 190 to win the pot of 100, so he needs to have a large number of hands he folds out to make a shove good here I think.

Praetor · #9 07-13-2007, 03:45 PM

just call

jlocdog · #10 07-13-2007, 04:33 PM

He doesn't need a large number of hands to fold out to make it worth your while if he calls with a large number of inferior hands, ie. Tx,FD,AK,random crap like A5s that he wants to gamble with etc....