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Old 07-10-2007, 10:16 AM
DevilToad DevilToad is offline
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Default KKK vs possible straight & flush

Here was a hand i found extremely tricky. I'm a complete beginner so any advice about what i should do on the river or any mistakes i made elsewhere in the hand would be a great help.

Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
UTG calls, 1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, 2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5, 4, 6 (5 players)</font>
SB checks,Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3 (4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks,Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (10 BB) K (3 players)</font>
SB folds, Hero ?

Final Pot: 12 BB
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:33 AM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

*grunch*

I think u have to bet this turn even that board is scary.
When u will be raised then with 4 way pot without read is probably fold.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:02 AM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

If you're putting a bet in on the turn then bet/fold. Otherwise check/fold the turn.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

Since you are fairly new here welcome. Also FYI, I am not an expert but here is what I would do.

I think I would bet fold the flop.
If just called on the turn, I check/call 1 on the river but not 2.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:11 AM
Zeldark Zeldark is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

Bet/Folding the turn with a King high flush draw is weak sauce. SB has done you a favor and open-folded, so that leaves you HU with the button. If you think he has 2x or 7x or 2 hearts more than 9% of the time you should fold. Otherwise you should call.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

yeah. I missed the flush draw [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:49 AM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

d'Oh I also missed the flush draw on the turn. bet/call the turn. Since you improved I'll say check/call the river.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

I would bet/call the turn.
Then check/ call the river. You are probably behind but not so far that you can't call, the pot is pretty large.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

The river did not change anything for our hand--we should have bet the turn. I guess your plan was obviously to see a showdown, so you're not folding, right? I don't think a worse hand is going to bet here, so let's bet.

Buzz
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:15 PM
Montrealcorp Montrealcorp is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs possible straight & flush

i think a c/c on turn is fine since theres a higher chance vs 3 player someone hit a flush(or straight)and u dont have the best hand .

so for me,when i suspect im behind i c/c(turn) since i ve got lot of outs to improve(when im on a draw i dont want to call a raise) my hands(9 hearts) then if i had a pair of K(w/o hearts)i would of bet and fold(turn) if i get raised since i cant improved or very slightly(2 outs and probably not good anyway).

on the river i would c/c(overcall) since i improved(slightly compared to the hands we are agaisnt) but would think im probably dead but the pot is so big...

btw i would fold vs any raise happening on the river..
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