paired boards and bluffing....

[jordiepop]

if i held aa here would this be a fold on a non ace turn? how do stats , and the fact that people love to play back at u on paired boards, effect ur play in this situation with a hand like qq+

villian is a 34/20/4
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $272.45
UTG+1: $185.25
Hero: $95
Button: $134.70
SB: $90.70
BB: $17.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14.5, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $16</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($46.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $24</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($94.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $46.2</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $186.9

villian shows q8 diamonds.

[TPF]

really depends you sort of know the players who will move here with nothing. You also know the players who will call PFR with a Tx

[PantsOnFire]

Nice call on the turn.

This is really a poker question. You are not playing your cards and you're not playing the board. You are playing villain.

You have to figure what he thinks you are holding on each street and why he is playing the way he is. On the flop, he is probably representing something like JT or perhaps a flush draw. On the turn, he is now only reprsenting JT or perhaps Ax spades.

As it turns out, since this hand was show down it contains a wealth of information to be used in future hands. Then, when you are the same situation later, you can draw on this info and any other info you have.

As for your question about AA or QQ, I would reraise SB's $16 raise to about $40 on the flop or even move all-in, especially if you know what you now know about SB.

[tubasteve]

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Nice call on the turn.

This is really a poker question. You are not playing your cards and you're not playing the board. You are playing villain.

You have to figure what he thinks you are holding on each street and why he is playing the way he is. On the flop, he is probably representing something like JT or perhaps a flush draw. On the turn, he is now only reprsenting JT or perhaps Ax spades.

As it turns out, since this hand was show down it contains a wealth of information to be used in future hands. Then, when you are the same situation later, you can draw on this info and any other info you have.

As for your question about AA or QQ, I would reraise SB's $16 raise to about $40 on the flop or even move all-in, especially if you know what you now know about SB.

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if you know SB is bluff happy then why would you raise him on the flop? so he can fold instead of bluffing his chips off to you drawing practically dead?

[JOHNY CA$H]

Against a guy like that, I'd probably try to get it in. Against a tight player... could be a fold, but turn bet is kinda small.

[PantsOnFire]

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Nice call on the turn.

This is really a poker question. You are not playing your cards and you're not playing the board. You are playing villain.

You have to figure what he thinks you are holding on each street and why he is playing the way he is. On the flop, he is probably representing something like JT or perhaps a flush draw. On the turn, he is now only reprsenting JT or perhaps Ax spades.

As it turns out, since this hand was show down it contains a wealth of information to be used in future hands. Then, when you are the same situation later, you can draw on this info and any other info you have.

As for your question about AA or QQ, I would reraise SB's $16 raise to about $40 on the flop or even move all-in, especially if you know what you now know about SB.

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if you know SB is bluff happy then why would you raise him on the flop? so he can fold instead of bluffing his chips off to you drawing practically dead?

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1. To get him to stop bluffing into you.

2. It doesn't necessarily mean a bluff. It could be a flush draw, x2, or also JJ. If it's the first two, you don't want to give him turn card and if it's JJ, then you just might stack him.