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Old 07-06-2007, 11:36 AM
Lash Lash is offline
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Default 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

Reads: BTN is new to table, SB is playing tight straightforward poker.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $65.45
BB: $24.95
Hero (UTG): $57.05
MP: $48.80
CO: $35.65
BTN: $4.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $4.10</font>, SB calls $3.85, BB folds, Hero calls $2.35

Flop: ($12.80) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($12.80) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
SB checks, Hero?

1- Is checking best here because of the all in player?
2- If you bet – how much and why?

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Old 07-06-2007, 12:08 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

the all in player is irrelevant here. i don't bet because of the board texture and being c/r here big means you have to fold, which sucks.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

I check here because one player is all in. If you semi-bluff here you still have to go to showdown anyway so the only time I would bet here is for value.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:11 PM
jonyy6788 jonyy6788 is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

u really should be folding this PF or shoving (EDIT: not necessarily shoving, but bringing in a raise to isolate).

check as played
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:59 PM
joelav128 joelav128 is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

Fold this preflop? Getting 4.1-1?
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

If you raise QJs UTG, I dont understand why you dont cbet it. This is an excellent flop.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

He doesnt cbet because the pot is protected by the player who is all in?
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:26 PM
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what do you mean by "protected"
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:28 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

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what do you mean by "protected"

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Old 07-06-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - Turn OESFD - check w/ outs?

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the all in player is irrelevant here. i don't bet because of the board texture and being c/r here big means you have to fold, which sucks.

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Why irrelevant?
What good does a turn bet do here? If villain folds we are heads up with all in. Our fold equity is effectively 0.
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