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Old 07-06-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default NL 25 JJ standard?

Villan is 32.4/11.8/1 over 34 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.80
UTG+1: $8.25
MP1: $32.15
MP2: $2.40
MP3: $25.80
hero: $26.60
Button: $30.20
SB: $11.05
BB: $29.40

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $0.85</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2.6</font>, 3 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.55, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero calls all-in $20</font>.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($53.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $53.55)


River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($53.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $53.55)


Results:
Final pot: $53.55
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

I would only make the call if I have a read that villain is super aggressive or is a donk.

Against unknown, I fold this. He's prob have PP with diamond FD.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

Yeah I agree here. He'd have to be an uber donk for you to be good here. His check-raise on the flop after you've already 3-bet him pf screams crazy strength.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

I fold against an unknown... probably against just about anyone actually.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:27 PM
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Does he never put me on AK here? can he never just have like 99/TT/ even 88. I guess your right even if i have an over pair if he has a diamond in his hand then he has 11 outs which make s me only 57% favourite at best prob, unless its a FD then im still only 64% thats if he doesnt have an over. Surely its alot closer to a call with the J of diamonds?
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

Is it common for people c/r all-in with 99/TT on this board to try to push off AK?

It's possible that he has 99/TT and does this. However, if you put other possible range of hands that he might have (AA/QQ, sets, big diamond FD), this might be a long term (slightly?) -EV play.

If I have J of diamond, I will be leaning towards a call.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:47 PM
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Board: 4d 5d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.092% 33.63% 03.47% 19308 1990.50 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 62.908% 59.44% 03.47% 34131 1990.50 { 33+ }

Fold
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

i thought so, its true there are only a few hands im beating and if either has a diamond im only slim favourite where as i could be a big dog. thanks guys was very tired during this hand and tilting me thinks.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ standard?

[ QUOTE ]
Board: 4d 5d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.092% 33.63% 03.47% 19308 1990.50 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 62.908% 59.44% 03.47% 34131 1990.50 { 33+ }

Fold

[/ QUOTE ]

33+?
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Board: 4d 5d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.092% 33.63% 03.47% 19308 1990.50 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 62.908% 59.44% 03.47% 34131 1990.50 { 33+ }

Fold

[/ QUOTE ]

33+?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, that's a really bad range to put him on.


I fold this though, his range involves a lot of hands that have us crushed, and a few hands we're a little ahead.
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