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Old 07-04-2007, 01:39 AM
Ryba Ryba is offline
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Default NL 50 - Bluff River?

i'm running like 20/14/2, villain is donky 50/3/1, but doesnt seem like a calling station, should i even try to bluff him out on the river, or just check behind? He has a Q here like never, so if we decide to bet how much should it be?

Also when he donks the flop like that is it just better to raise flop and and give up unless you improve?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $43.87
BB: $50.00
UTG: $54.76
Hero (MP): $70.47
CO: $31.08
BTN: $35.68

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($5.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB calls $4.50

River: ($15.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets ??
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:42 AM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

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River: ($15.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets ??

[/ QUOTE ]Why? What folds on the river that calls on the turn? Please do not say a flush draw.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:49 AM
Pigslice Pigslice is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

I think some donks, if they're really really dumb, call with a flush or straight draw sometimes. I probably raise flop and give up after that.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

i am REALLY puzzled as to what this guy has. Though he is a donk so its not totaly unrealistic to see him him calling the tunr with some crap royal flush draw with like the A10 clubs or something like that hoping that his A is good and he has out(s) if it isnt.

I definetly just go ahead and raise the flop bet to slightly larger than a reg c-bet amount. 1 he might fold, 2 he prob calls and checks to u on the turn so u can see a free river. As played id just check behind, dont think he's giving up now that he called turn.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

Raise flop to 4 and be done with the hand if he shows any resistance at all.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

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Raise flop to 4 and be done with the hand if he shows any resistance at all.

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Old 07-04-2007, 06:24 AM
Gullanian Gullanian is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

Don't bluff river they call with any king any ace usually.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

Er, he has a J. Right?

And the only way to get him to fold it is to raise flop and then pot turn if he has called. As you didn't raise flop, the moment has passed and I'd check behind on river.

Whether I raise flop here depends on game flow. If I think I can push him off the J, I'll give it a go. If not, I'll just give up pretty quick.

Just IMO.
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

do not bluff river): find a better spot vs a better player
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 - Bluff River?

dont bother raising the turn
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