Two Bubble hands from FTP $6.50 turbo

jesse8888 · #1 07-03-2007, 02:21 PM

Up to this point Villain has been playing pretty smart, or so it seems. He's been hovering around 1500 chips for about 4 orbits by pushing and collecting the blinds once a trip. This is his first limp in bubbleland, and it smells very, very bad to me. Was I right to call anyway? If not, what is my range?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t3205)
BB (t5785)
UTG (t1570)
Hero (t2940)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t500, Hero raises to t2940 (All-In), 2 folds, UTG calls t1070 (All-In).

Flop: (t5260) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)
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Turn: (t5260) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t5260) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t5260

This is the very next hand. This is a push with any two, correct, regardless of the fact that the BB just limp-called an all in with A9o on the previous hand?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t2955)
SB (t5285)
BB (t3890)
Hero (t1370)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1370 (All-In), Button calls t1370, 2 folds.

Flop: (t3490) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)
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Turn: (t3490) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3490) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3490

DeuceSeven · #2 07-03-2007, 02:28 PM

You'd need a wicked read that villain has exactly QQ+ in hand 1 to not push. Hand 2 is standard.

wobbegong · #3 07-03-2007, 02:30 PM

Hand 1: I am very suspicious of Hand 1. Bad players love to limp AA or KK with a 3BB's at the 6.50s and 11s, but sadly I am not getting away from JJ there. nice hand

Hand 2: yes that is unexploitable, nh.

CmnDwnWrkn · #4 07-03-2007, 02:38 PM

Both pushes were correct.

In #1, the villain played horribly and caught a lucky ace on the flop. Nothing you can do about that. You made the right play. I guarantee that the villain knew nothing about ICM and was just making desperation pushes because he was short stacked.

In #2, there is no other option. At less than 3xBB you have to push there. A looser calling range from your opponents that would have resulted from your previous push was balanced out by the fact that you just showed JJ, a very strong hand.

TruFloridaGator · #5 07-03-2007, 03:09 PM

Both are easy shoves.
In #2 you ask if it's a shove with ATC. Not necessarily, you have little FE as it is. You should be folding some of the very worst hands, maybe the bottom 16%.