Flushdraw + overcards multiway facing a 3bet

corsakh · #1 06-28-2007, 04:46 AM

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($61.55)
Button ($89.15)
SB ($47.70)
BB ($55.60)
UTG ($52.60)
MP ($50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds.

Flop: ($6) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets $5, Hero raises to $17.5, Button raises to $87.4 (All-In), MP folds, Hero ???

Basically 42 into 87.
What do we do?

OneBigRed · #2 06-28-2007, 04:52 AM

His range is probably JJ+, Ahxh, and sets. I'd fold.

VLV · #3 06-28-2007, 04:54 AM

Anybody else just call flop bet?

jessyj07 · #4 06-28-2007, 05:14 AM

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Anybody else just call flop bet?

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payoff wizard · #5 06-28-2007, 05:15 AM

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Anybody else just call flop bet?

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Yes, especially with another player behind. Many uNL players have a huge tendency to overplay draws forgetting that, at these stakes, their fold equity is not good. Call the flop for pot control.

As played, button likely has a big made hand and is protecting against a draw. Fold.

ama0330 · #6 06-28-2007, 05:47 AM

I love to repop this preflop, but that's just me. As played you cant actually count on either of your overcards being live, so you have to fold. Calling the PSB is also bad because you won't get paid if you catch a heart, and if you catch a K or a Q you are still in trouble verus his range.

Sweir · #7 06-28-2007, 05:52 AM

I 3bet this pf, but calling isn't bad. As played raising the cbet seems standard, as does folding to the 3bet. I doubt all of your outs are clean.

corsakh · #8 06-28-2007, 05:57 AM

I know about 3bet, but I just 3bet twice in the last orbit so I did not feel like pushing it too far.

Sweir · #9 06-28-2007, 06:07 AM

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I know about 3bet, but I just 3bet twice in the last orbit so I did not feel like pushing it too far.

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Interesting. Personally I like to have a bad image (I play TAG) so unless people are playing back at me I think its good to get them thinking you 3bet a lot.

corsakh · #10 06-28-2007, 06:11 AM

Right, but then I prefer to tighten up when my image gets too much out of hand.