$11 AQs on flush draw flop

The Bubbler · #1 06-16-2007, 12:34 PM

Your visions on this line are very welcome please.

Limp AQs preflop? Shove or fold flop?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1880
Hero: t1580
UTG+2: t2650
MP1: t2000
MP2: t1860
MP3: t2100
CO: t2320
Button: t1710
SB: t1820
BB: t2080

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60 (pot was t90), Hero calls t60 (pot was t150), 2 folds, MP2 calls t60 (pot was t210), MP3 folds, CO raises to t120, 3 folds, UTG calls t60 (pot was t390), Hero calls t60 (pot was t450), MP2 calls t60 (pot was t510).

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t570, 4 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets t300, UTG calls t300 (pot was t870), Hero ?

Longy · #2 06-16-2007, 12:41 PM

I shove, but i think calling is an option given we are getting 4 to 1 from the pot. I think folding is a mistake.

traedamatic · #3 06-16-2007, 12:52 PM

I fold! I don't want to risk all my chips with 9 Outs. I only shove in such situation if my stack is below 10 BB.

mortimo · #4 06-16-2007, 01:04 PM

I CRAI with so nice potodds

I think we have 25-30% chance against a set, so a call could be better..

empyrium · #5 06-16-2007, 01:06 PM

well we have 6 outs for A and Q and the flushdraw, i think i would call and fold the turn unimproved

Hand_Crasher · #6 06-16-2007, 01:06 PM

limp and call

allhappythoughts · #7 06-16-2007, 01:06 PM

I think calling is probably okay. About 4:1 pot odds, 4:1 of making your flush on the next hand, add in the implied odds and if you make your hand you've got a good shot of doubling up.

I'm not sure I'd pull a squeeze here...it's early in the tourney and you're probably behind, although if he's got something like TT you're probably pretty close to 50:50. Just too early for me to want to risk it. Remember you've invested 120 chips in this hand, which isn't much at all, and you really have no obligation to play this one out. So I think folding in this situation is okay as well.

Shoving is my least favorite option. Also, I wouldn't mind making a probe bet on the flop. It's a pretty good flop for us all things considered. I'd probably raise it up PF too.

cardworm · #8 06-16-2007, 01:09 PM

i think that crai all in is by far the best play.The half pot size bet from the preflop raiser shows no strength,u should have some serious fold equity.

empyrium · #9 06-16-2007, 01:10 PM

raise pf? i personally like the pf limp with AQ in early pos.

Tessai · #10 06-16-2007, 01:13 PM

i would call! nice pot odds and probably very nice implied odds

fold would be wrong here

shove (means allin? if yes then) so early in the game would be to much risk. You can lose the tourney and you can not win money in that early stage, even with a tripple up you are not guarranteed a price.

preflop play was good imo, of course you would have had dufferent options which could be good too, but the way you played preflop was good