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Old 06-14-2007, 12:09 PM
aargh57 aargh57 is offline
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Default KQs HU OOP gets nothing

Villain is 50/6.5/1 sorry no reads on him other than stats. I hate bluffing the river on this in a smallish pot but there's a lot of draws villain could have on this board. Also, he didn't seem aggressive enough for me to c/c the river w just K high. The only other time that I've called down w K high is when a donk was stacking off and I only had to call 1/3 of a bet on the river.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero wonders whether to b/f, c/f, or c/call down with K high which he's never done before.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

Start by checking and hoping for a FSD. I'd call his bet though.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

c/f or c/c

I always c/c when you've only see villain call a c/f is pbb better (I mean: when you have no reason to believe he might be the type to bluff rivers when checked to).
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

I ck call this until he expects me to ck call A hi here and stops bluffing with 63 QJ, the 8 turn was actually a bad card tho make it like a 2 or something and id actually want him to bet the river
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

I just c/f here. I think its kind of close between c/c and c/f, the thing that sways it to a fold for me is that it really sucks when he decides to "bluff" A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

I think I am in the c/f camp. I dont like that turn
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:32 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

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I ck call this until he expects me to ck call A hi here and stops bluffing with 63 QJ, the 8 turn was actually a bad card tho make it like a 2 or something and id actually want him to bet the river

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I think kind of the opposite. If the turn is a 2, you can definitely check-fold. The 8 is problematic because it gives hands like QJ and J9 a reason to call. Still, I would generally check-fold here the first time or two.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

Well, I c/f'd this and my thinking was pretty basic. Basically I thought he probably was only betting with hands that beat mine more than 5 out of 6 times. Although it crossed my mind that if there were a situation to call down w K high this has to be close.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

A guy this loose, I think a C/F is right. If he's tighter, all those baby cards are more likely to have missed him. A-hi I c/c here pretty often.*


*It's been established that I showdown way too often. Handful of salt as necessary.
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Old 06-14-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: KQs HU OOP gets nothing

i usually c/f
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