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Old 06-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default $1 sit&go\'s at pokerstars

Are these tourneys actually doable? The players are pretty bad on those limits. At least 4 of the 9 players have vpip's above 60 on 50 hands.

Is it a too much of a crapshoot or is it pretty easy with a little skill to manage a decent ROI at these sit&go's?
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: $1 sit&go\'s at pokerstars

Your ROI will be the highest in these games since the players are so bad.

As you move up to the higher games where the overall skill starts to improve, you will see ROI start to drop.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: $1 sit&go\'s at pokerstars

From the FAQ:



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<td class="lighttable"><p style="PADDING-LEFT: 1em; MARGIN-LEFT: 1em">It's difficult to
determine exactly what the maximum obtainable ROI is at any given level. The
reason for this is pretty simple to understand. Imagine you were the BEST $5
SNG player in the world. Your ROI is higher than any other $5 regular's. You
would soon realize, though, that your hourly rate would actually go up if you
played $10 SNGs with a slightly lower ROI. In short, most people play whatever
stakes let them maximize their hourly rate. So there's no way we'll ever know
what's really obtainable at any one level since typically the players
that could get that magical number move up from that level.



Having said that, we can still speculate what a very good player at a given
level could maintain over a significant sample size. We can find this out by
observing good players and through tracking sites such as sharkscope. So
without further ado, a very good player could probably expect to have the
following ROIs:



$3.40s - 18%

$6s - 16%

$16s - 14%

$27s - 12%

$60s - 10%

$114s - 8%

$225s - 6%

$335s+ - 4%



A few notes should be made on these numbers. These are based on Stars turbos.
If you play a non-turbo structure, generally your ROI might increase a few
points (due to the slower structure), but at the expense of your hourly rate
(again, due to the slower structure). These numbers are quite applicable to
major sites besides Stars. Perhaps at a smaller site with a generally worse
player pool, you might find you can get a couple of points higher ROI, but
again, the games fill slower at smaller sites so this increase in ROI will come
at the expense of hourly rate. These numbers are also based on 9-man SNGs.
Typically players find that the competition is a slight bit softer in 18-man and
likewise, in 6-man SNGs. And finally, it should be stated that ROIs above these
figures are possible at each level. However again, if you are capable of
maintaining these figures over a large number of games, it's safe to say you are
a talented SNG player.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Paul B. Paul B. is offline
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Default Re: $1 sit&go\'s at pokerstars

I honestly didn't even know these existed and I had to check to make sure, lol. The rake is killer ($1 + 0.20). Since you're on 2+2, I assume you're playing poker primarily to make a profit (as opposed to playing recreationally) so it doesn't make sense why you would play these when you can play a $6.50s or something.
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