Two hands from a coaching session

EvanJC · #1 06-07-2007, 04:22 PM

The great and powerful has Krantz decreed that these hands were played well. What sayeth ssnl?

Hand 1:
Villian is a taggy regular running at 25/20/2.8

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $120.60
UTG+1: $92.50
CO: $65
Hero: $115.75
SB: $108
BB: $116.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises to $4.5, SB raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero raises all-in $101.75, SB calls all-in $72.
Uncalled bets: $7.75 returned to Hero.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($218, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $218)

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($218, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $218)

Results:
Final pot: $218

Hand 2:
again here, villian is a taggy reg, leaning toward the aggressive side. i can't really explain the flop action, it was probably bad an was in no way Krantz approved. i'm really wondering about the river play mostly. you like?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Button: $100
SB: $101.50
Hero: $119.35

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button raises to $3.5, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($17.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises to $40, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $97.5

willw9 · #2 06-07-2007, 04:24 PM

I hate both.

jonyy6788 · #3 06-07-2007, 04:25 PM

Hand 1) He's not really folding much of his range is he?

iSTRONG · #4 06-07-2007, 04:25 PM

Both hands are ok. imo.

I prefer hand 1 to hand 2 tho.

EvanJC · #5 06-07-2007, 04:26 PM

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Hand 1) He's not really folding much of his range is he?

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88-1010 maybe, ak/aq, i dunno he's folding some stuff.

4_2_it · #6 06-07-2007, 04:29 PM

Hand 1 is okay. Sometimes he calls and you are crushed, sometimes he calls and you have live cards and most of the time he folds because the flop missed him.

Hand 2 is spew at NL$100. Probably works great at NL$400 and higher though. No one ever checks with an A on the river and no one ever folds a K. He's not betting that river with Q high. I agree that a check raise on the river is the only way you are winning the pot, but trying to win every pot isn't a good long term goal.

Lemayr · #7 06-07-2007, 04:31 PM

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Both hands are ok. imo.

I prefer hand 1 to hand 2 tho.

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U really liked them?

iSTRONG · #8 06-07-2007, 04:35 PM

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Both hands are ok. imo.

I prefer hand 1 to hand 2 tho.

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U really liked them?

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Hand 1 is fine as long as you do it not too frequently & when you have the correct image.

Hand 2 is ok. i suspect it EV neutral a small -ev but it's not horrible in any way.

PBJaxx · #9 06-07-2007, 04:37 PM

Hand 1 is fine sometimes, and I will make these shoves when there is some history for sure. While most posters here know this (very basic), it is worth mentioning for newer players that this is far better to do with AQ/AK than with 66/88. If the reason isn't obvious, you really need to think about it because it is very important.

Hand 2 is good against value-bet junkies like me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] because I will be VBing a queen here almost always. If 4_2_it says it is no good against most NL100 players, I believe him.

Jigsaws · #10 06-07-2007, 04:38 PM

I like hand 1 if he 3bets light. I do it some of the time myself.

I think hand 2 is pretty spewy. I don't think he has a counterfeited pair enough to make this worth it.