exstensive poo flinging

Fiksdal · #1 06-08-2007, 09:59 AM

So I was tired of not getting payed off at my NL tables. Then I remembered that in minibet holdem nobody ever folds, so then I thought I'd go fling some poo and have good cards when I was flinging, LDO!!

Full Tilt 0.25/0.5 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Fiksdal is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Fiksdal raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, Fiksdal caps, BB calls.

Flop: (11.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Fiksdal bets, BB raises, Fiksdal 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Fiksdal bets, BB raises, Fiksdal 3-bets, BB calls.

River: (16.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Fiksdal bets

Did I fling too much at any point here?

Also, is it optimal for at thinking player to play 6-max in minibet?

Thanks guys.

fretelöo · #2 06-08-2007, 10:17 AM

Yes, you flung a bit too much there. I'd call down from the turn c/r. That looks awfully like 77 or TT there.

You gotta ask yourself what he's playing like this? He 3bets you pf oop. So let's just assume he has some inkling about this game and realizes that a) he'll be oop for the rest of the hand and b) your EP raise is probably not a blindsteal but a legitimate raise. Both of which a) give his 3bet more weight and b) should make him very wary of your cap.

Now, he c/r an ATx flop - obv. your advertizing that you have QQ+ doesn't quite impress him. So he has either a very good draw or a very decent piece. Him calling your 3bet and c/r you on the turn again, means that he's trapping you for as many bets as you're happy to put in here and clearly says that he's not impressed by the prospects of you turning over Ax.

Man of Means · #3 06-08-2007, 10:18 AM

The turn 3-bet may be a little aggro; I'd call down after being checkraised there. Let him keep betting with KK-JJ, while you don't want to pay more to see a set.

River value bet's fine, though the triple c/r would make me puke. Re-think Edit: I don't see what we're beating now. Sets, AQ, and the possible semi-bluffing flushdraw all got there. (Wouldn't he have folded KK-JJ to your 3town?) After getting in the turn 3bet, maybe it's time to turn over your cards and see if it held up.

I don't play online anymore but 6-max was lots of fun, fullring is for multi-tabling bots IMO.

MrWookie · #4 06-08-2007, 10:23 AM

KK-JJ virtually never play that way. This is a chop or a weak-ish 77 or TT every time after he c/r's the turn.

Fiksdal · #5 06-08-2007, 10:26 AM

fret

maybe you are giving my opponent a little bit too much credit here?

Remember what kind of stakes we are talking about here, and fwiw most of the guys at the table were total muppets. Clearly. This guy was new to the table though, I had like 5 hands on him.

fretelöo · #6 06-08-2007, 10:31 AM

Might be. Though normally I'd assume muppets to be loose and passive, not loose and crazy. If he seemed maniacish, you should have included that - vs. an unknown, I don't 3bet the turn.

sharpie · #7 06-08-2007, 10:39 AM

I see you overvalue TPTK. (no offense [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

Fiksdal · #8 06-08-2007, 10:43 AM

nah I knew nothing about the guy to be honest

Buzz-cp · #9 06-08-2007, 11:36 AM

slow down on the turn as in bet/call & calldown. This is too many bets vs an unknown.

NIX · #10 06-08-2007, 12:43 PM

I'm not 3betting that turn vs. an unknown. I can see the flop check/raise either testing you for an ace or him value raising an ace of his own. After he check/raises the turn though, I think this is AK at worse. With how aggressive you were up to that point, I wouldn't expect a random person to be raising AQ or AJ again there.