T8 river play

[orange]

just sat. first round. eh?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $198.00
BB: $41.45
UTG: $141.65
MP: $365.95
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $203.00</font>
BTN: $198.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN calls $8.00, SB folds, BB calls $6.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, BTN calls $16.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($57) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $37.00</font>, BTN calls $37.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($131) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ...

[Fat Nicky]

goddamn that's a gross card. effective stacks are $140 at the river...how does bet $65/fold to raise sound? i can't see him bluff raising here as we look pretty committed to the pot, so we can fold pretty confidently if he shoves over our bet.

c/c is an option, but if he shoves we have a really tough decision on our hands with no read on this guy. we'd probably have to end up folding to a shove. also, if we check, he likely checks behind w/a J, causing us to lose value.

[fitnessfreak]

no reads or stats on villian?

disgusting spot. i always hate bet folding with these stack sizes but i actually think that half pot and fold to shove might be the best play.

[orange]

no reads or stats. just sat.

[steel108]

Disgusting. I am too familiar w these spots lately. I actually see no value in betting $65 since only a hand that beats us is calling (can't see a lone J calling 3 bets on this board); what sucks is your not beating anything so check/call sucks since you cant really call anything bc every draw hit (spades, K-Q) and I dont think a J would bet for value. Im kind of a showdown monkey, but vs an unknown, I don't hate c/f in this spot.

[Fat Nicky]

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I actually see no value in betting $65 since only a hand that beats us is calling (can't see a lone J calling 3 bets on this board);

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this assumption sucks w/no read. keep in mind he doesn't know us either, he might looks us up light.

[GrandMelon]

Id probably just [censored] it and shove

[mythrilfox]

i think this is an obvious check

[Nielsio]

Sweet hand to raise preflop in the first round.


I tend to check this on the flop, because I usually going to check the turn, making villians almost always bet the river and I have no idea what to do.

But when I bet the turn, they usually don't bluff the river.

[Fat Nicky]

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i think this is an obvious check

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planning to do what if villain bets 1/2 pot? shoves?