Can raising preflop be bad even with aces?

[Nogatsira]

9 handed loose table
You are in the BB with AA
Everyone limps in and you know they will call a raise anyhow.

Think about the following:
If you raise now, the pot will be much bigger, thus giving WAY better odds to every chaiser on the flop. So against all theoretical laws, wouldnt it be better to check preflop?

I'd like your thoughts about this.

[Spurious]

No!!!!!
Raise is +EV...
Read Small Stacks Holdem by Sklansky, he talks about that.

[Nogatsira]

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No!!!!!
Raise is +EV...
Read Small Stacks Holdem by Sklansky, he talks about that.

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I just ordered it with my FPPs [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[bung]

If every single person limped in that hand pf, then checking is usually the better play, even with AA.

The pot is already large. If you raise now, you create an even larger pot, making it correct for everyone to see you to the river post-flop...give up a tiny edge now, to gain it back post-flop. If you're lucky, you'll get a bettor in the later positions and you can c/r the field and thin it out....

[googleit123]

AA has p/f equity and value. PUSH PUSH PUSH!!!

You assume you will always miss the flop and you will get outdrawn. This won't always happen. When you hit expect a big payoff, when you miss and run into resistance try not to spew. Whew...

[Nogatsira]

I dont assume I will always get outdrawn, I just know that I WILL give my opponents better odds to draw at the flop.

[Wetdog]

If you have to ask this you should fold preflop and take a walk. You don't want to see the rest of the hand.

[bung]

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AA has p/f equity and value. PUSH PUSH PUSH!!!

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AA has very little p/f equity and value against 8 other hands pf. It does not do well at all in a multi-way pot. I'll probably get my ass kicked for saying this here, but if you really were 9 handed there, throwing away your bullets wouldn't have been a bad mistake at all.....

(I'm not advising anyone to throw AA away ever, just making an exaggerated point....)

[nomadtla]

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I dont assume I will always get outdrawn, I just know that I WILL give my opponents better odds to draw at the flop.

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With 9sb in the pot allready almost any hand is gonna have the right odds to draw on the flop anyways. You are not gaining much in pot control since even gutshots will be close and have implieds to call the flop. get your money in now while you have a huge equity lead on the feild. Then play some poker postflop.

[Nogatsira]

I really dont get you here Wetdog and I'm really with bung on this one.
I rather play suited connecters in a multiway this big then aces.