JJ 3bet vs Halfrek 1st Hour

[Jaysick88]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2539449819: $40,000 Guarantee (18858078), Table 8 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:46:51 ET - 2007/05/29
Seat 1: Bjorg009 (7,535)
Seat 2: NorcalRounder (15,550)
Seat 3: SirWatts (4,075)
Seat 4: Halfrek (3,120)
Seat 5: Jaysick88 (6,410)
Seat 6: stonecoldms (3,680)
Seat 7: K-BUBBA (7,000)
Seat 8: topgunguy (6,060)
K-BUBBA posts the small blind of 25
topgunguy posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jaysick88 [Jd Js]
Bjorg009 folds
NorcalRounder calls 50
SirWatts folds
Halfrek raises to 250
Jaysick88 raises to 700
stonecoldms folds
K-BUBBA folds
topgunguy folds
NorcalRounder folds
Halfrek calls 450
*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 3s]
Halfrek checks
Hero ????

I havent played many high stakes tourneys and really am not a great tourney player. When i have a good cash game day (low stakes PLO/ob8) I like to play bigger tourneys. This is probably a pretty basic situation but the flat call preflop kind of scared me. I cant see not felting this hand as if he called the raise to 700 with any of those low pairs its a horrible play on his part and a cooler. If he has qq-aa thats unlucky also i guess? My question is what is the best way to try and get some value from ak or middle pocket pairs. 88-1010? What range are we assuming he is calling preflop with? What size should my continuation bet be?

[Pudge714]

If you aren't bet instacalling this flop the preflop 3bet is awful.

[Jaysick88]

I Understand that I am felting this. What is the proper bet amount. It was odd his stack was about 1.5x the pot on the flop.

[curtains]

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Full Tilt Poker Game #2539449819: $40,000 Guarantee (18858078), Table 8 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:46:51 ET - 2007/05/29
Seat 1: Bjorg009 (7,535)
Seat 2: NorcalRounder (15,550)
Seat 3: SirWatts (4,075)
Seat 4: Halfrek (3,120)
Seat 5: Jaysick88 (6,410)
Seat 6: stonecoldms (3,680)
Seat 7: K-BUBBA (7,000)
Seat 8: topgunguy (6,060)
K-BUBBA posts the small blind of 25
topgunguy posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jaysick88 [Jd Js]
Bjorg009 folds
NorcalRounder calls 50
SirWatts folds
Halfrek raises to 250
Jaysick88 raises to 700
stonecoldms folds
K-BUBBA folds
topgunguy folds
NorcalRounder folds
Halfrek calls 450
*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 3s]
Halfrek checks
Hero ????

I havent played many high stakes tourneys and really am not a great tourney player. When i have a good cash game day (low stakes PLO/ob8) I like to play bigger tourneys. This is probably a pretty basic situation but the flat call preflop kind of scared me. I cant see not felting this hand as if he called the raise to 700 with any of those low pairs its a horrible play on his part and a cooler. If he has qq-aa thats unlucky also i guess? My question is what is the best way to try and get some value from ak or middle pocket pairs. 88-1010? What range are we assuming he is calling preflop with? What size should my continuation bet be?

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I would bet a reasonable amount and probably would never fold. I don't know the guy well enough to know he's not going to go nuts with smoe other overpair. Also I'm not giving him credit for slowplaying AA/KK when out of position here.


Anyway pot is already like 1600 and he has only 2400 left. You are stuck if you are behind IMO.


Also it's very important to realize that we want AK to fold, so probably do anything that you think can accomplish that goal. AK has a lot of equity against your hand here and the pot is very large, thus you'd MUCH rather take it down than race against AK (the extra 4 straight outs are extremely important). If you think he may be convinced to fold it if you simply move allin, then I'd do that.