$200nl, KK on a rag board, what is he calling me down with??

[netstorm]

Am I valuebetting this river? If so, how much and why?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $508.65
BB: $200.00
UTG: $81.59
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $238.00</font>
BTN: $205.75

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is a player who Ive played a lot with at $100nl aswell. 18/12/1</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $9.00, BB folds, UTG calls $8.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, SB calls $20.00, UTG folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, SB calls $45.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($162) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

[netstorm]

Hmmm... now that I think of it. He wouldve probably shown more strength if he had set on the turn. If he had 89 he just got counterfeited. I guess its a valuebet then ? Would $100 be correct here?

[thac]

I think I bet bigger on the turn.. more like 55-60. As played, he's not checking a boat to you on this river I don't think, and if he called you down two streets with a 6 (Other than 76 I guess, that's a stretch preflop though coldcalling out of the SB).

I think a lot of 18/12s play a middle pair like this preflop, so like JJ-88, and he's not betting the river, but he'll probably call a bet so I think I bet like 115 here.. if he shoves I think I vomit.

[Bukem_]

77, tt. Bet, these guys never slowplay a hand that beats you.