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Old 05-27-2007, 08:37 AM
sixfour sixfour is offline
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Default $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

No converter wanted to work. Big stack seemed OK, caller not so, seemed a bit weak. This is probably an automatic fold, but was unsure at the time and made what should be the worst choice I could make. Opinions?

Seat 4: UTG (865)
Seat 6: Button (3,865)
Seat 7: Hero (2,380)
Seat 8: BB (6,390)
Hero posts the small blind of 250
BB posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Ad]
UTG raises to 865, and is all in
Button calls 865
Hero?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

please push
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

I'd just call (and of course call if the bb pushes). You are sorta short yourself and I don't mind everyone seeing the flop.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

i'd call
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

calling, yuck !

Why would you ever want to give BB the feeling he can push over you (I would with a wide range, cuz there would be lots of dead money in the pot)?

Only reason for calling here would be if BB was tight/passive and you knew for sure that he only pushes JJ+,AK over your call.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

holy is right, it's way too timid to call here..
shoving is the best with >1/3 of the pot being dead money very often
it just kinda sux if shortie wins and we become the new shortie, but oh well
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:10 AM
Heavens_Myst Heavens_Myst is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

blinds are 250/500 and u guys are saying to call, hero has 5BB's my god, push and hope to isolate the UTG, you're so far ahead of his range its sick
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

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calling, yuck !

Why would you ever want to give BB the feeling he can push over you (I would with a wide range, cuz there would be lots of dead money in the pot)?

Only reason for calling here would be if BB was tight/passive and you knew for sure that he only pushes JJ+,AK over your call.

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The BB pushing is a good thing.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:39 AM
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calling, yuck !

Why would you ever want to give BB the feeling he can push over you (I would with a wide range, cuz there would be lots of dead money in the pot)?

Only reason for calling here would be if BB was tight/passive and you knew for sure that he only pushes JJ+,AK over your call.

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The BB pushing is a good thing.

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Don't think so. I'd rather take his 500 as dead money than be in a 60/40 situation for my stack OTB...
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 AQ on bubble vs short stack shove and call

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calling, yuck !

Why would you ever want to give BB the feeling he can push over you (I would with a wide range, cuz there would be lots of dead money in the pot)?

Only reason for calling here would be if BB was tight/passive and you knew for sure that he only pushes JJ+,AK over your call.

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The BB pushing is a good thing.

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Don't think so. I'd rather take his 500 as dead money than be in a 60/40 situation for my stack OTB...

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The thing is, you are 3rd in chips and the bigstack has a ton of chips. You are really just trying to lock up 3rd place and then trying to improve once you are ITM. So getting others to see the flop is a good thing for you. Are you really that worried about the shortstack winning and then the bigstack still beating you?
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